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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Aug 13, 2013 15:22:57 GMT -5
What happens to someone who had a pro contract but was recently signed as a UFA to a minor league contract.
As an example Radek Dvorak who was signed to 1.something million, I don't resign him in RFA. Someone else signs him for 100k and miraculously continues his career and has a useable card. Will that team have the option to sign him to whatever pro contract they like when he has a good card again only this time be a UFA at the end of it?
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Aug 13, 2013 15:34:19 GMT -5
What happens to someone who had a pro contract but was recently signed as a UFA to a minor league contract. As an example Radek Dvorak who was signed to 1.something million, I don't resign him in RFA. Someone else signs him for 100k and miraculously continues his career and has a useable card. Will that team have the option to sign him to whatever pro contract they like when he has a good card again only this time be a UFA at the end of it? I don't think anyone who has had a pro contract in FHL can be signed to a 100k ( minors ) contract. But, I am curious to hear the answer. |
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Aug 13, 2013 15:38:34 GMT -5
Unless Im mistaken and Marty Turco never had an FHL Pro contract, it can certainly happen as he was signed to 100k by Adirondack which is what made me curious about what would happen in the first place.
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on Aug 13, 2013 16:36:33 GMT -5
I also thought the rule was once they have had a pro deal they could not get a minor league contract. But I see Boucher, Brian is on a minor league contract and I know he has had a pro deal.
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Post by Ian-Halifax on Aug 13, 2013 17:05:31 GMT -5
Why wouldn't we be able to sign someone to a minor league deal just because they had a pro deal in the past? If someone is on a minor league deal after a pro contract, wouldn't the owner have the option to sign them to a pro deal and then the player would just be a UFA when his contract ends since it's his second pro contract?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 17:58:32 GMT -5
The problem likely isn't that they can be re contracted to a minor league deal, but that their card may have pro league value. Am I understanding this correctly?
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 13, 2013 18:08:57 GMT -5
What happens to someone who had a pro contract but was recently signed as a UFA to a minor league contract. As an example Radek Dvorak who was signed to 1.something million, I don't resign him in RFA. Someone else signs him for 100k and miraculously continues his career and has a useable card. Will that team have the option to sign him to whatever pro contract they like when he has a good card again only this time be a UFA at the end of it? If a guy has a good card I would think he would be gobbled up before he gets to the sub 500k (minor league range) no? |
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Aug 13, 2013 18:11:59 GMT -5
Someone on a down year say they only played a couple games and have a terrible card
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Aug 13, 2013 18:39:49 GMT -5
Or for a better example...Greg Mckegg gets dropped due to too high of an asking price then gets picked up for 200k since he's only an 18-11 then becomes a good FHL card does the team that signed him get to pick his contract term and value or does it go back to an asking price for a pro contract
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 13, 2013 19:19:00 GMT -5
Or for a better example...Greg Mckegg gets dropped due to too high of an asking price then gets picked up for 200k since he's only an 18-11 then becomes a good FHL card does the team that signed him get to pick his contract term and value or does it go back to an asking price for a pro contract He would be treated like the other players who are on minor league contracts and get a good card, if played on the big club he will need to be signed to a pro contract the following year or be released unconditionally. We have a group of 33 players (I believe that is the number) that meet this criteria from last year. They will be noted during the minor league decision portion of the off season which will happen after RFA and prior to UFA. |
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 13, 2013 21:38:35 GMT -5
Stop the presses, this scenario was brought up before and it was determined that a player who has had a pro contract cannot be signed to a minor league deal. Are we changing this previous ruling?
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Post by Ian-Halifax on Aug 13, 2013 21:49:27 GMT -5
I missed that if it was determined. I don't understand why that would be the case, it makes no sense. NHL players can be signed to 2-way deals after a 1-way, can't they? However, if a team signs a guy like this then down the line signs him to a pro contract, I think he should be a UFA after that since it's his second pro contract.
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 13, 2013 21:59:23 GMT -5
I agree, I know for a fact this was determined during the very first free agency process. I have no problem with guys who have been on pro deals receiving minor deals as per your arguement above, just wasn't aware that this was being allowed and was apparently allowed last year as well.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Aug 13, 2013 23:58:45 GMT -5
Ok, can we get clarification....
I recall way back in season one this issue was brought to lite....here goes...
A player is on a minor league contract ( ex: Ryan Garbutt ). I have him burried in my Minor's. Suddenly I have an injury, and call the kid up for a cup of Joe ( coffee, for you youngsters ). He stays up with the big boys for a few games, I dunno, maybe 11. I would then be forced to pay him a Pro Contract, Correct?
On the other hand, what if I do not give Ryan Garbutt a Pro Contract before this season starts. What are my options???
Do I just leave him in minors until necessary? Can I do this?
Do I just give him his 100 + 50% raise? Give him a pro contract after I call him up?
DO I give him a 500k contract at whatever term I like? Can I do that?
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on Aug 14, 2013 7:57:39 GMT -5
What is the official rule on this?
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