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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Oct 28, 2016 19:12:52 GMT -5
Hmm, just curious...I thought that guys with 10 Fortitudes didn't get injured.
JT Miller - 10 Fortitude, is out 4 Days after tonights tilt with that roughshod Cincy team. Dirty team I tell ya. Yet, Suffolk comes away from that game looking like cheapshot artists. A couple runs at their goalie and a major in the final 2 mins of game play. We lost our tempers in that one.
Anyways...Is this right...10 Fortitudes can still be injured?
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Oct 28, 2016 20:01:56 GMT -5
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Oct 28, 2016 20:01:56 GMT -5
Hmm, just curious...I thought that guys with 10 Fortitudes didn't get injured. JT Miller - 10 Fortitude, is out 4 Days after tonights tilt with that roughshod Cincy team. Dirty team I tell ya. Yet, Suffolk comes away from that game looking like cheapshot artists. A couple runs at their goalie and a major in the final 2 mins of game play. We lost our tempers in that one. Anyways...Is this right...10 Fortitudes can still be injured? Alway could but likelihood is low and almost always day to day...although maybe a slim to none chance for a long term injury
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on Oct 28, 2016 20:02:28 GMT -5
Everyone can be injured. THE higher the Fort the less chance of it being serious.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Oct 28, 2016 20:13:28 GMT -5
Correct. Anyone can be injured. Propensity for injury is higher the lower a players Fortitude is. Once injured, lnegth is determined by fortitude as well with the lower fortitude guys having a bigger chance for longer day to day injuries as well as long term injuries. That being said, even a fortitude 10 guy can have a long term injury but the chances of that are very low.
From tonight's debug log:
Miller 10 Injury Chance: 4 Injury Check Random Val: 2 ==> **INJURY** 4 Days
He has a 4 in 1000 (less than 1/2 of a percentage point) chance of getting injured and he did. In order to be long term he would have had to have another horrifically low roll (and he didn't)
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Oct 28, 2016 20:24:26 GMT -5
That's pretty cool does the debug show every play and roll. Like a shot or check and the outcome? If so any chance we get a look at one just to see what all goes into a game.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Oct 29, 2016 6:18:06 GMT -5
That's pretty cool does the debug show every play and roll. Like a shot or check and the outcome? If so any chance we get a look at one just to see what all goes into a game. Yes, the engine players every game in breakdowns of 1/10s of seconds. The debug code for the game itself is too cryptic to be digested by looking at the output. Viewing games (replays first and then live views) is the going to be handled by the DVR program that is in the works.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Nov 1, 2016 19:44:54 GMT -5
Just an observation...
I am noticing a lot of injuries. Could be due to a few reasons ( ie: players with low fortitudes on rosters ), but, geez...LOTS of GHL injuries so far. What gives? Are the GHLers getting bigger and stronger? Or smaller and meeker?
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Nov 1, 2016 20:23:03 GMT -5
There have been no changes to the injury determination code. The last time I checked the games missed to injury in the GHL pretty much mirrored what the NHL was experiencing. Also keep in mind that when guy gets injured for 2 or 3 days he may not even miss one game based on days off between games.
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Post by Justin-St Paul on Dec 10, 2016 2:47:00 GMT -5
My team currently has 6 players injured. I can't even call up a player that I want to play offense because I am over the roster size
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Post by Scott-New York on Dec 10, 2016 7:41:05 GMT -5
You can call up a player, you just have to send one of your injured players to the minors first.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Dec 10, 2016 8:52:09 GMT -5
Correctamundo and thanks Scotty.
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Post by Matt-Syracuse on Dec 13, 2016 10:16:27 GMT -5
Have we done a study of injury frequency?
Here are my notes on injuries:
One of the issues is that a guy who takes an early season injury that exceeds his historical time missed comes back, and is just as likely to take another injury. Why not make any player who exceeds his historical time missed less likely to be injured upon return? I think that would be cool.
In reality, injury avoidance is also a demonstrable skill. The classic case was when Jerome Iginla, who missed one game in three NHL seasons, took two injuries in one season for me, including costing me the playoffs against Quebec. Some guys are Iron men, and the chance of sitting out in the playoffs is even less likely than in the regular season.
A one-half percent chance of getting injured per game is WAY TOO HIGH for a guy who never missed a game in three seasons.
Fourth, given the frequency of injuries, the minor league players seem to exist in a chasm of inability--the ratings seem too severe, its like calling up a sixth grader to play. Whatever the Major Leage Equivelancy formula to adjust between NHL and AHL is probably a bit too stretched. We could do a study of journeyman performances from one year to the next of AHL-NHL and NHL to AHLplayers to see what the difference really is....that would be fascinating. What are replacement level numbers in the NHL? What are they in GHL?
How much of a ratings boost does someone get for playing 10 games in the NHL on the 4th line?
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Post by Matt-Syracuse on Dec 13, 2016 10:27:03 GMT -5
What are the chances of a 7 fortitude player making it through a playoff series? Of getting hurt? For how long?
What are the chances of a 7 fortitude player making it through as season? Getting injured twice?
It would be awesome if that information was put in a chart, for every fortitude rating, and someone with some basic statistical skills could calculate the percentages.
When I see a guy with a 7 fortitude in a playoff run season, the Blazers front-office policy is to put him on the 4th line or trade him, cause there is such a slim possibility he can make it through a playoff run.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Dec 13, 2016 15:18:43 GMT -5
What are the chances of a 7 fortitude player making it through a playoff series? Of getting hurt? For how long? What are the chances of a 7 fortitude player making it through as season? Getting injured twice? It would be awesome if that information was put in a chart, for every fortitude rating, and someone with some basic statistical skills could calculate the percentages. When I see a guy with a 7 fortitude in a playoff run season, the Blazers front-office policy is to put him on the 4th line or trade him, cause there is such a slim possibility he can make it through a playoff run. Seeing this reminds me of a college stats exam from many many years ago. I believe the number was .4% which is less than 1/2 of a percent. Also be aware that if injured, this player has an equally minute chance of missing significant time and for the most part will miss 2-3 days which would mean on average 1 game. I did a high level analysis a few years back and the numbers were very close to the NHL numbers.
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Post by Matt-Syracuse on Dec 14, 2016 11:28:46 GMT -5
But we should have some idea what fortitude means, and if a statistical analysis is possible, we should make it. Not rocket science.
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