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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jan 13, 2022 22:33:19 GMT -5
LOL...pre-game, Suffolk had the overwhelming matchup advantage in all 3 categories, plus a large rare advantage in goaltending. AND, Edm goalie was fringing btwn Minus 1 and 2...We fired 46 shots, and Edm blocked an additional 30. But, Suffolk could only Block 21 shots, same as our Fresh Off the Bench Goalie, who managed 21 saves on 28 shots faced. The Defense pairing on the top line has Renouf, 63-36...he played 20+ mins...a minus 1. A "36 Defense Rating?!"....LOL. We suck!
Weird. As if there were some crazy spiritual presence that played a factor, versus a statistical factor.
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Post by Owen-Moncton on Jan 14, 2022 2:23:57 GMT -5
LOL...pre-game, Suffolk had the overwhelming matchup advantage in all 3 categories, plus a large rare advantage in goaltending. AND, Edm goalie was fringing btwn Minus 1 and 2...We fired 46 shots, and Edm blocked an additional 30. But, Suffolk could only Block 21 shots, same as our Fresh Off the Bench Goalie, who managed 21 saves on 28 shots faced. The Defense pairing on the top line has Renouf, 63-36...he played 20+ mins...a minus 1. A "36 Defense Rating?!"....LOL. We suck! Weird. As if there were some crazy spiritual presence that played a factor, versus a statistical factor. Did you happen to catch the Leafs in AZ last night? Should’ve been a rout. Some goalie who embodied the spirit of Dom Hasek stopped 46 of 47 and The Leafs - an absolute wagon — lose to a garbage fire franchise. Moral of the story: the hockey gods are fickle bunch of pricks.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jan 14, 2022 10:06:49 GMT -5
LOL...pre-game, Suffolk had the overwhelming matchup advantage in all 3 categories, plus a large rare advantage in goaltending. AND, Edm goalie was fringing btwn Minus 1 and 2...We fired 46 shots, and Edm blocked an additional 30. But, Suffolk could only Block 21 shots, same as our Fresh Off the Bench Goalie, who managed 21 saves on 28 shots faced. The Defense pairing on the top line has Renouf, 63-36...he played 20+ mins...a minus 1. A "36 Defense Rating?!"....LOL. We suck! Weird. As if there were some crazy spiritual presence that played a factor, versus a statistical factor. Did you happen to catch the Leafs in AZ last night? Should’ve been a rout. Some goalie who embodied the spirit of Dom Hasek stopped 46 of 47 and The Leafs - an absolute wagon — lose to a garbage fire franchise. Moral of the story: the hockey gods are fickle bunch of pricks. Owen, I understand the difference between Reality and Fantasy. I’m aware that in Reality, Arizona can beat any NHL franchise on any given night. I’m aware of cinematic and even “The Miracle On Ice!” But, you are adding into the Sim, something which doesn’t exist…that is Real Character Emotion! Without the Emotion Quotient—The “make believe Hockey Gods” do not exist! In Reality and Fantasy, the Hockey Gods do not exist! It’s a Statistical Alghorical Simulation free of Alcohol and Emotion. Strength against weakness.
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Post by Joe-Adirondack on Jan 14, 2022 10:52:13 GMT -5
Chris I agree …. With that said I lost to Washington 3-1 a few nights ago ok understandable loss but to lose to Glenn when I outplayed them thoroughly and its not 1-0 or 2-1 final score ….I but 5-0 makes zero sense
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jan 14, 2022 14:17:17 GMT -5
Did you happen to catch the Leafs in AZ last night? Should’ve been a rout. Some goalie who embodied the spirit of Dom Hasek stopped 46 of 47 and The Leafs - an absolute wagon — lose to a garbage fire franchise. Moral of the story: the hockey gods are fickle bunch of pricks. Owen, I understand the difference between Reality and Fantasy. I’m aware that in Reality, Arizona can beat any NHL franchise on any given night. I’m aware of cinematic and even “The Miracle On Ice!” But, you are adding into the Sim, something which doesn’t exist…that is Real Character Emotion! Without the Emotion Quotient—The “make believe Hockey Gods” do not exist! In Reality and Fantasy, the Hockey Gods do not exist! It’s a Statistical Alghorical Simulation free of Alcohol and Emotion. Strength against weakness. Not sure you mean by doesn't exist in the sim. Anytime you are dealing with random numbers being generated you are going to get random results. Ergo the phrase random numbers. This very much exist in the sim and in fact just as much as in real life.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jan 14, 2022 17:42:58 GMT -5
Owen, I understand the difference between Reality and Fantasy. I’m aware that in Reality, Arizona can beat any NHL franchise on any given night. I’m aware of cinematic and even “The Miracle On Ice!” But, you are adding into the Sim, something which doesn’t exist…that is Real Character Emotion! Without the Emotion Quotient—The “make believe Hockey Gods” do not exist! In Reality and Fantasy, the Hockey Gods do not exist! It’s a Statistical Alghorical Simulation free of Alcohol and Emotion. Strength against weakness. Not sure you mean by doesn't exist in the sim. Anytime you are dealing with random numbers being generated you are going to get random results. Ergo the phrase random numbers. This very much exist in the sim and in fact just as much as in real life. It exists, more as an enabling capacity. Enabling the less involved, less worthy, less capable, less > defense, offensive, etc…team to continue to be less than involved. On a side note, it is affecting Suffolk on a roughly 33% basis. So, I’d like to know, if the “less thans” are getting a little pick me up, I pose these questions to you Glenn: 1- does it happen in every game? 2- if so, at what % boost level ? 3- who has decided which team gets the boost? 4- why is it we are boosting any team/game? By the same token, a team getting a boost against a better team, many times in minor/pro sports a team that is PREPARED to annihilate a victim, is PUMPED to see that it is playing an inferior team and pounces all over that team. Where is the boost for that? Where is the boost for a team that is built to skate,pound, send projectiles which being coached or managed by a staff that doesn’t allow for the let downs of weaker minded coaching staff? Because, I always brought it, always expected to bring it, and that’s what I expect every time I participate in anything. I don’t play to lose. Although, it isn’t realistic to win 82 games, I never expect to lose to absentee ownership and pre set lineups! It’s senseless to both reward a less than adequate built team with both an in game boost and allow them to been in a better position at the draft table! Get them off the teat!!!
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Post by Owen-Moncton on Jan 14, 2022 20:21:51 GMT -5
Did you happen to catch the Leafs in AZ last night? Should’ve been a rout. Some goalie who embodied the spirit of Dom Hasek stopped 46 of 47 and The Leafs - an absolute wagon — lose to a garbage fire franchise. Moral of the story: the hockey gods are fickle bunch of pricks. Owen, I understand the difference between Reality and Fantasy. I’m aware that in Reality, Arizona can beat any NHL franchise on any given night. I’m aware of cinematic and even “The Miracle On Ice!” But, you are adding into the Sim, something which doesn’t exist…that is Real Character Emotion! Without the Emotion Quotient—The “make believe Hockey Gods” do not exist! In Reality and Fantasy, the Hockey Gods do not exist! It’s a Statistical Alghorical Simulation free of Alcohol and Emotion. Strength against weakness. I suppose we just have differing definitions of the phrase ‘statistical probability’.
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Jan 14, 2022 20:58:06 GMT -5
Owen, I understand the difference between Reality and Fantasy. I’m aware that in Reality, Arizona can beat any NHL franchise on any given night. I’m aware of cinematic and even “The Miracle On Ice!” But, you are adding into the Sim, something which doesn’t exist…that is Real Character Emotion! Without the Emotion Quotient—The “make believe Hockey Gods” do not exist! In Reality and Fantasy, the Hockey Gods do not exist! It’s a Statistical Alghorical Simulation free of Alcohol and Emotion. Strength against weakness. I suppose we just have differing definitions of the phrase ‘statistical probability’. Come on now Owen, be nice to Suffolk. you know throwing terms around he doesnt understand angers him. Why can't we all just get along. Peace, Harmony, Love, and other vague random concepts that have no meaning behind them.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jan 14, 2022 22:22:51 GMT -5
I suppose we just have differing definitions of the phrase ‘statistical probability’. Come on now Owen, be nice to Suffolk. you know throwing terms around he doesnt understand angers him. Why can't we all just get along. Peace, Harmony, Love, and other vague random concepts that have no meaning behind them. Awe Jonny-thing made a cold call!!! Careful Jonnsie...someone is stalking your little goalies...I knew you wouldn't be able to avoid adding your meaningless bullshit once again! As if, anyone really needs to hear your condescending crap. Owen and I have a long relationship here. He can insult me any time, and he usually does. At least it's to my face or in a private message. Unlike you, the coward type that likes to hide around words...The true pussification of this country personified. Keyboard warriors are proud. You got that tough soy-boy latte stache working huh, Good little Teat-boy! Come on in and frolic around in the playground Jonnsie!
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jan 15, 2022 8:42:24 GMT -5
Not sure you mean by doesn't exist in the sim. Anytime you are dealing with random numbers being generated you are going to get random results. Ergo the phrase random numbers. This very much exist in the sim and in fact just as much as in real life. It exists, more as an enabling capacity. Enabling the less involved, less worthy, less capable, less > defense, offensive, etc…team to continue to be less than involved. On a side note, it is affecting Suffolk on a roughly 33% basis. So, I’d like to know, if the “less thans” are getting a little pick me up, I pose these questions to you Glenn: 1- does it happen in every game? 2- if so, at what % boost level ? 3- who has decided which team gets the boost? 4- why is it we are boosting any team/game? By the same token, a team getting a boost against a better team, many times in minor/pro sports a team that is PREPARED to annihilate a victim, is PUMPED to see that it is playing an inferior team and pounces all over that team. Where is the boost for that? Where is the boost for a team that is built to skate,pound, send projectiles which being coached or managed by a staff that doesn’t allow for the let downs of weaker minded coaching staff? Because, I always brought it, always expected to bring it, and that’s what I expect every time I participate in anything. I don’t play to lose. Although, it isn’t realistic to win 82 games, I never expect to lose to absentee ownership and pre set lineups! It’s senseless to both reward a less than adequate built team with both an in game boost and allow them to been in a better position at the draft table! Get them off the teat!!! No one is getting a pick me up. I don't even know what that is or how it would relate to the discussion of random numbers in general or of them being generated within the sim specifically. Let's say Jim and Larry have a bet on 10 coin flips, Jim say heads is going to come up more and Larry say tails will. After 10 flips 7 are tails and 3 are heads. Larry wins the bet. Are you saying that Larry got a pick me up because tails came up statistically more than it should have in a 50/50 test? The sim uses roughly 1800 pulses per game (since each pulse length is determined randomly in 10th of seconds spent based on what the action is), each pulse taking a stat from one player and comparing it against a stat from another player to determine what happens on a play (Does the defender steal the puck or knock it loose, does someone take a penalty, does the offensive player get a shot off, If resolving a shot, does the tender make the save? Probability has no sense or concept or reward. It is impartial and has no concern with the trifling of men.
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Jan 15, 2022 9:43:49 GMT -5
Come on now Owen, be nice to Suffolk. you know throwing terms around he doesnt understand angers him. Why can't we all just get along. Peace, Harmony, Love, and other vague random concepts that have no meaning behind them. Awe Jonny-thing made a cold call!!! Careful Jonnsie...someone is stalking your little goalies...I knew you wouldn't be able to avoid adding your meaningless bullshit once again! As if, anyone really needs to hear your condescending crap. Owen and I have a long relationship here. He can insult me any time, and he usually does. At least it's to my face or in a private message. Unlike you, the coward type that likes to hide around words...The true pussification of this country personified. Keyboard warriors are proud. You got that tough soy-boy latte stache working huh, Good little Teat-boy! Come on in and frolic around in the playground Jonnsie! Your on the forum in the octagon. It’s not a cold call, there’s a reason there are multiple corners, but I’m not here to give you a geometry lesson. As far as being a coward and a pussy, well I’m sure your tales of manliness and heroics would put my experiences of bomb defusal and exploits in firefights to shame. Maybe you’d care to regale us with your honorable deeds? I mean what are my two combat tours to Afghanistan, one with a special forces unit, compared to whatever the fuck you’ve done.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jan 15, 2022 14:49:14 GMT -5
While I appreciate your service to this country and our freedoms, I can only dream of the opportunity you had. I did not serve. My birth father who did not raise me, did serve during Korean War and was a boxer in the Army. My Great Uncle, who did raise me, was 3rd Army in WWII, serving overseas in Battle of the Bulge. His brothers, 2, also served WWII, one lost his life in English Channel. My brother just retired after 20+ years of service, latter 15 being in USCG. Having Navy, US Army Anti-Tank during Desert Storm. Myself, I was set to go to the Marines after High School. Many of my friends did go. I was begged not to go, and I caved. I'm much older than you. In early 80's there was no conflict, other than Iran Contra. The USSR was just dissolved, which was our biggest worry! I had HOPED to be a Sniper sent to the European theatre to take out ANYONE needing to be taken out. Bourne Identity, BEFORE Bourne Identity even was a movie. NO, I never did have that opportunity, BUT, It was a choice! I still can place a NATO round down range at 600 yard's and bullseye. I have trained with the President's 100. It doesn't make me special. It just gives me some confidence and helps me overcome my ONLY regret--Not Serving in the Marines. But, when the man who raises you, and who NEVER spoke of the War, tells you that he doesn't want you to see what he saw or to go through what he went through, you have to take a pause. And, when you take a pause, you're done!
I am a 2nd Amendment Believer and hold my NYS Pistol License and a few other accoutrements which bring me joy. I have Retired Green Beret as In Law. I know Special Units personnel. And not to be unappreciative, I also KNOW of Marine who served, whom are/were pissed that all they did was Protect the Poppy Fields for the CIA drug operations. I also KNOW Marine EVAC Snipers. I KNOW Marine Recon Leader whom WITNESSED our OWN boys RAPING and TORTURING Afghan's!!!! So, While I appreciate your service, YOU do not get the right to trample on my rights as a sovereign individual. Whether or not you're a Corporal, Lance Corporal or any other Rank in the USMil. You swore and oath to Protect this Nation against All threats, Foreign and Domestic. Trust, I did not take that oath before a Staff Sargeant, but I will be there when and if my time comes.
If you want to continue spewing BS, everytime I question the simulation or display angst towards the continued development of it, I'll ask you to think about the soldier who has no idea why he is Protecting a Poppy Field with his life. I know the irony doesn't quite resonate...my point is, sure I may not totally understand the Algorithm properties or fully know the statistical implications for the system Glenn designed. But, I'm not a soldier in this process...And, I don't need to take friendly fire from another unit in the same command. When the Commandant speaks, I listen. I don't take orders from you or anyone else. Sorry.
I'll continue to, what some call "Rant" until issues are explained, resolved or implemented. This discussion re: Goalie Card Development, Rookie Card Dev, etc...has been an issue that has NOT been a transparent one. We have Categories and Sub Categories, which apparently, are meaningless, UNTIL they mean something. THATS MY problem. I don't like Grey areas...give me the black and white. I'm not asking for PERSONAL accolades or procedures done in MY favor. I ask, for the betterment of our league. A particular issue may or may not affect you. It may not be YOUR issue or question, but it is ONE none-the-less.
In closing, I do not have the Rank of any US Mil. I do honor and respect those that do. You do not get special treatment or the right to trample upon someone because of your Military. ANDDDDDD, I am NOT SAYING THAT YOU ARE! But, don't think I am going to step aside and allow you to either. I am at ease, suggesting you do the same.
PS...My 1st add-on to my NYSPL was a Carry Conceal from a Newly Formed Veteran Owned and Veteran Employed company,I believe in Colorado...An Honor Guard Honor Defense 9MM.
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Post by Owen-Moncton on Jan 15, 2022 15:57:19 GMT -5
It exists, more as an enabling capacity. Enabling the less involved, less worthy, less capable, less > defense, offensive, etc…team to continue to be less than involved. On a side note, it is affecting Suffolk on a roughly 33% basis. So, I’d like to know, if the “less thans” are getting a little pick me up, I pose these questions to you Glenn: 1- does it happen in every game? 2- if so, at what % boost level ? 3- who has decided which team gets the boost? 4- why is it we are boosting any team/game? By the same token, a team getting a boost against a better team, many times in minor/pro sports a team that is PREPARED to annihilate a victim, is PUMPED to see that it is playing an inferior team and pounces all over that team. Where is the boost for that? Where is the boost for a team that is built to skate,pound, send projectiles which being coached or managed by a staff that doesn’t allow for the let downs of weaker minded coaching staff? Because, I always brought it, always expected to bring it, and that’s what I expect every time I participate in anything. I don’t play to lose. Although, it isn’t realistic to win 82 games, I never expect to lose to absentee ownership and pre set lineups! It’s senseless to both reward a less than adequate built team with both an in game boost and allow them to been in a better position at the draft table! Get them off the teat!!! No one is getting a pick me up. I don't even know what that is or how it would relate to the discussion of random numbers in general or of them being generated within the sim specifically. Let's say Jim and Larry have a bet on 10 coin flips, Jim say heads is going to come up more and Larry say tails will. After 10 flips 7 are tails and 3 are heads. Larry wins the bet. Are you saying that Larry got a pick me up because tails came up statistically more than it should have in a 50/50 test? The sim uses roughly 1800 pulses per game (since each pulse length is determined randomly in 10th of seconds spent based on what the action is), each pulse taking a stat from one player and comparing it against a stat from another player to determine what happens on a play (Does the defender steal the puck or knock it loose, does someone take a penalty, does the offensive player get a shot off, If resolving a shot, does the tender make the save? Probability has no sense or concept or reward. It is impartial and has no concern with the trifling of men. All of this further compounded by referees whose homer, penalty and the third category which I forget can bear on the results of each one of those pulses. Probability by definition indicates that there are no absolutes. I’ve lost to teams i should have absolutely pumped and I’ve beaten a few who statistically speaking, should have handed me my ass. That’s why we try to get the matchups we like with the chemistry between lines that produce results. So unless there’s a ‘fuck Suffolk’ script written into the program, if the argument is the code fails to acknowledge statistical advantage, then any imaginary flaw would impact us all equally. Arizona’s no name goalie robbed Rantannen and Nate in the shootout last night. Statistically, they should have beaten him. They didn’t, because hockey is a series of random occurrences and results vary. Our little world here in the G is no different. When I can’t get the results I expected I put my lines in the blender and try something else. Win or lose I have fun 🤘🏼
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Jan 15, 2022 20:21:50 GMT -5
While I appreciate your service to this country and our freedoms, I can only dream of the opportunity you had. I did not serve. My birth father who did not raise me, did serve during Korean War and was a boxer in the Army. My Great Uncle, who did raise me, was 3rd Army in WWII, serving overseas in Battle of the Bulge. His brothers, 2, also served WWII, one lost his life in English Channel. My brother just retired after 20+ years of service, latter 15 being in USCG. Having Navy, US Army Anti-Tank during Desert Storm. Myself, I was set to go to the Marines after High School. Many of my friends did go. I was begged not to go, and I caved. I'm much older than you. In early 80's there was no conflict, other than Iran Contra. The USSR was just dissolved, which was our biggest worry! I had HOPED to be a Sniper sent to the European theatre to take out ANYONE needing to be taken out. Bourne Identity, BEFORE Bourne Identity even was a movie. NO, I never did have that opportunity, BUT, It was a choice! I still can place a NATO round down range at 600 yard's and bullseye. I have trained with the President's 100. It doesn't make me special. It just gives me some confidence and helps me overcome my ONLY regret--Not Serving in the Marines. But, when the man who raises you, and who NEVER spoke of the War, tells you that he doesn't want you to see what he saw or to go through what he went through, you have to take a pause. And, when you take a pause, you're done! I am a 2nd Amendment Believer and hold my NYS Pistol License and a few other accoutrements which bring me joy. I have Retired Green Beret as In Law. I know Special Units personnel. And not to be unappreciative, I also KNOW of Marine who served, whom are/were pissed that all they did was Protect the Poppy Fields for the CIA drug operations. I also KNOW Marine EVAC Snipers. I KNOW Marine Recon Leader whom WITNESSED our OWN boys RAPING and TORTURING Afghan's!!!! So, While I appreciate your service, YOU do not get the right to trample on my rights as a sovereign individual. Whether or not you're a Corporal, Lance Corporal or any other Rank in the USMil. You swore and oath to Protect this Nation against All threats, Foreign and Domestic. Trust, I did not take that oath before a Staff Sargeant, but I will be there when and if my time comes. If you want to continue spewing BS, everytime I question the simulation or display angst towards the continued development of it, I'll ask you to think about the soldier who has no idea why he is Protecting a Poppy Field with his life. I know the irony doesn't quite resonate...my point is, sure I may not totally understand the Algorithm properties or fully know the statistical implications for the system Glenn designed. But, I'm not a soldier in this process...And, I don't need to take friendly fire from another unit in the same command. When the Commandant speaks, I listen. I don't take orders from you or anyone else. Sorry. I'll continue to, what some call "Rant" until issues are explained, resolved or implemented. This discussion re: Goalie Card Development, Rookie Card Dev, etc...has been an issue that has NOT been a transparent one. We have Categories and Sub Categories, which apparently, are meaningless, UNTIL they mean something. THATS MY problem. I don't like Grey areas...give me the black and white. I'm not asking for PERSONAL accolades or procedures done in MY favor. I ask, for the betterment of our league. A particular issue may or may not affect you. It may not be YOUR issue or question, but it is ONE none-the-less. In closing, I do not have the Rank of any US Mil. I do honor and respect those that do. You do not get special treatment or the right to trample upon someone because of your Military. ANDDDDDD, I am NOT SAYING THAT YOU ARE! But, don't think I am going to step aside and allow you to either. I am at ease, suggesting you do the same. PS...My 1st add-on to my NYSPL was a Carry Conceal from a Newly Formed Veteran Owned and Veteran Employed company,I believe in Colorado...An Honor Guard Honor Defense 9MM. I dont understand how any of that has anything to do with you calling me a coward and a pussy, but hey, I'm sure it'll make sense to someone. I didnt realize standing up for myself was infringing on your personal freedoms, so please feel free to continue. Honestly I don't care, because you keep just making yourself look more and more like an ass who doesnt have any clue what he is talking about. After all, you're the one taking all the shots here. But what the fuck would I know about friendly fire...I mean there was that Mk19 incident, but lets be honest Jorgenson was the worst shot in the company, so I was probably safer with him trying to hit us.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jan 17, 2022 21:33:54 GMT -5
No one is getting a pick me up. I don't even know what that is or how it would relate to the discussion of random numbers in general or of them being generated within the sim specifically. Let's say Jim and Larry have a bet on 10 coin flips, Jim say heads is going to come up more and Larry say tails will. After 10 flips 7 are tails and 3 are heads. Larry wins the bet. Are you saying that Larry got a pick me up because tails came up statistically more than it should have in a 50/50 test? The sim uses roughly 1800 pulses per game (since each pulse length is determined randomly in 10th of seconds spent based on what the action is), each pulse taking a stat from one player and comparing it against a stat from another player to determine what happens on a play (Does the defender steal the puck or knock it loose, does someone take a penalty, does the offensive player get a shot off, If resolving a shot, does the tender make the save? Probability has no sense or concept or reward. It is impartial and has no concern with the trifling of men. All of this further compounded by referees whose homer, penalty and the third category which I forget can bear on the results of each one of those pulses. Probability by definition indicates that there are no absolutes. I’ve lost to teams i should have absolutely pumped and I’ve beaten a few who statistically speaking, should have handed me my ass. That’s why we try to get the matchups we like with the chemistry between lines that produce results. So unless there’s a ‘fuck Suffolk’ script written into the program, if the argument is the code fails to acknowledge statistical advantage, then any imaginary flaw would impact us all equally. Arizona’s no name goalie robbed Rantannen and Nate in the shootout last night. Statistically, they should have beaten him. They didn’t, because hockey is a series of random occurrences and results vary. Our little world here in the G is no different. When I can’t get the results I expected I put my lines in the blender and try something else. Win or lose I have fun 🤘🏼 LOL...Owen buddy, I cannot recall a recent memory where your team should have "Absolutely pumped"....You've finished dead last in your division the past 4 seasons, dead last in our conference the same duration...only 3 teams have finished worse than you, and they were all in the Wales. But, I understand what you're saying...Believe me, I am being totally facetious when I keep the "Suffolk is doomed" crusade going. I really am. But, I'm doing it to make a point. The problem is, the people who do not write the code, are the ones who keep jumping in to give the explanation they feel justifies everything. I simply, do not accept the simple write off in their explanations. No offense, but, I don't.
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