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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 2, 2014 21:07:17 GMT -5
Is this a new owner that is under the gun? I can't see doing this for a guy who has been here for any amount of time. Of course, you've called me a tyrant before, but I'm pretty sure we all understand that we work with a set salary cap.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 2, 2014 21:20:43 GMT -5
Is this a new owner that is under the gun? I can't see doing this for a guy who has been here for any amount of time. Of course, you've called me a tyrant before, but I'm pretty sure we all understand that we work with a set salary cap. I don't know of anyone that is under the gun be if we change things mid stream guys need a chance to adapt. Again, we won't let people go over the cap even to match IF SOME EVIDENCE IS FOUND THAT WE HAD THIS STIPULATION IN PAST YEARS. Otherwise we will start the RFA process next week and people will be able to exceed the 105% of cap to match.
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Post by Brian-Cleveland on Aug 2, 2014 22:00:46 GMT -5
Question about resigning RFAs, If someone bids say 4.5 mil on a player and you only have 4 mil in cap with the 3.5 mil overage included will the engine even let you retain since you wouldn't have enough money to fill out the rest of your roster. I know it won't let you make a bid you can't afford in UFA. There is no code that I have placed in there to prohibit this although I could/should. The other way to incorporate it would just be a visual check when teams are close to the inflated cap ceiling. gtgfhl.proboards.com/post/18853/thread
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Post by Brian-Cleveland on Aug 2, 2014 22:01:59 GMT -5
Based on my previous post it looks like teams can't go above the inflated cap for retaining purposes.
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Post by Ian-Halifax on Aug 2, 2014 22:08:32 GMT -5
I also found this: www.gtgfhl.proboards.com/thread/855/fa-biddingThe free agency section of the board will allow you to bid on players and also allow you to take your team to -2M in cap space. This is done with the thought that if you do sign some players for longer term (the players you picked up during FA this year), there will be some savings to be had. I am adjusting this to now allow you to only go -1M in cap space for the remaining rounds. The reason being, you cannot get savings for players you sign at or less than the league minimum. It may be a little bit of a stretch (and it's back when we used $2 mil instead of $3.5 mil/5%) but this post seems to imply that you can only take your cap to -$2 mil in cap space.. Obviously for this season it would be an extra 5% in cap space instead of the $2 mil.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 3, 2014 6:39:42 GMT -5
Thanks boys. I knew I did not have code implemented to check/prohibit this from happening, I will give it some though over the next few days as to if/how I could implement it before we start the round. I will see what can be done. I will also add this little tidbit into the rulebook so we have it moving forward.
RFA will start Friday 8/8 at 8:00 EST. The first round will be 8M dollar minimum and close on Saturday at 8:00 PM. Owners will have 24 hours to match and their decisions will be needed by 8:00 PM on Sunday. At that point round two (6M minimum bids) will start.
I will try to get the page setup for testing today so that everyone can throw a test bid out there.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Aug 3, 2014 8:58:47 GMT -5
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Aug 3, 2014 10:14:01 GMT -5
No no...young Christopher. Next you'll want to take away the team mulligan.
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Post by Ian-Halifax on Aug 3, 2014 11:05:44 GMT -5
hey glenn i kind of have one more question related to this topic. i know in the past we didn't pick contract lengths until after UFA, but i believe you said this may change in the future. are we planning on doing the same this year, or will we be able to do it as soon as we sign an RFA? i think when we talked about it before we determined the extra cap we are given was because we don't do this until after UFA, so i have a feeling i already know the answer.. just thought i would ask to be sure
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 3, 2014 11:40:10 GMT -5
hey glenn i kind of have one more question related to this topic. i know in the past we didn't pick contract lengths until after UFA, but i believe you said this may change in the future. are we planning on doing the same this year, or will we be able to do it as soon as we sign an RFA? i think when we talked about it before we determined the extra cap we are given was because we don't do this until after UFA, so i have a feeling i already know the answer.. just thought i would ask to be sure Contract length determination is a batch process that happens after FA has completed. There is another page that needs to be readied for that processes so they are handled separately and not concurrently.
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 3, 2014 16:32:36 GMT -5
Is it possible in the future to sign these guys you term immediately, I agree with Ian, in that if it could be done this way, it would help teams to better determine true cap space, since this seems to be an issue. If anyone would like, I could possibly offer my accounting assistance if certain teams are having trouble figuring out their finances for free agency. Just pm me and I will try to explain how I do this for my team.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 3, 2014 17:43:33 GMT -5
Is it possible in the future to sign these guys you term immediately, I agree with Ian, in that if it could be done this way, it would help teams to better determine true cap space, since this seems to be an issue. If anyone would like, I could possibly offer my accounting assistance if certain teams are having trouble figuring out their finances for free agency. Just pm me and I will try to explain how I do this for my team. Nothing is impossible that that is pretty improbable. It would take a significant re-write of how contracts and handled in relation to free agency. I cannot see it happening anytime soon.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Aug 3, 2014 22:07:47 GMT -5
No no...young Christopher. Next you'll want to take away the team mulligan. Yes Yes Mr Phil...Just for the record, I didnt ever use a Mulligan! Not with the Moncton trade, nor any before... On top of that, For you and I, and all of the existing members, with the exception of the new members, we should already be aware of the RFA and UFA steps and processes. We should be aware of expiring contracts, acquiring new players, acquiring draft picks and their salary impacts, etc... There is no surprise. If you;re surprised, then shame on you. The rest of the league shouldn't have to impacted nor burdened by your negligence. Matter of factly speaking of course, not that you're in cap trouble. If you or another GM decided to create an unfriendly cap team, that was his choice...he most likely benefitted from signing UFA's and RFA's to big money deals, now...he's stuck with them....NOT MY PROBLEM!!!! Make trades, drop a guy...you know the dance...
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Post by Ian-Halifax on Aug 4, 2014 14:57:57 GMT -5
Glenn, one more question about RFA.. In the past we have been allowed to bid on our own RFAs, we just lost the 10% savings (this year it could be 10 or 25% depending on the player). My question is, if we bid on our own RFAs this year, will we lose the savings and have to pay the FP or will we just lose the savings?
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 4, 2014 15:29:27 GMT -5
There will be no FP spent this year on bidding and next year FPs will probably be added to compensation for RFA I players only.
That being said you will forgo any savings if you bid on your own players.
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