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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Dec 18, 2015 12:47:11 GMT -5
Boys, D has always been the toughest rating to assign. It also uses the the most complex formula for any other ratings. It takes Players +/- as a function of teams +/-, Giveaways, takeways and blocked shots as well to arrive at a rating. With the advent of hockeu analytics we will be looking to use Corsi/Fenwick data to assist in this process moving forward. For those unaware, the Corsi/Fenwick ratings use a teams shots on goal while the player is on the ice and compares it with the teams shots allowed when the player is on the ice. The logic being, you need to have possession of the puck, and therefore denying possession to the opponent, in order to record a team shot on goal. In reviewing last years results it was interesting to see guys like Datsyuk near the top. He has always been considered a stalwart defensive forward although the values we use to rate players may not have been doing him justice. stats.hockeyanalysis.com/teamstats.php?disp=1&db=201213&sit=5v5&sort=CFPCT&sortdir=DESCWith that in mind, Scotty-NY has volunteered to do some leg work in reviewing the stats available to us in the above link assist in the facilitation of a Skype call to talk about the merits of the new stats. I will post something here as all are invited to attend to learn/discuss/propose the merits of the new stats.
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Dec 18, 2015 13:37:34 GMT -5
Is this what you are referring to Scott?
This is different from the 'team stats' that we need pronto.
Glenn can bang out the 'Team stats' right-quick prior to all this defensive stuff, I would hazard to wager.
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Post by Scott-New York on Dec 18, 2015 13:59:39 GMT -5
What would team stats improve upon, or do mean that those stats are just something you would like us to track?
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Dec 18, 2015 14:40:02 GMT -5
Rankings:
Teams: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. yada yada
Team hits Team faceoffs Team shots for / against Team blocks.
These team stats ARE MUCH NEEDED GOLD for information and strategy. ALL the NHL forums and websites have them.
I want to know which teams have the most hits / least hits Best faceoffs as a team Hitting-ist teams.
And who is the 'us' you are referring too ? It's all up to Glenn, I'm sure. He would never sell shares of 'his game'.
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Post by Matt-Colorado on Dec 18, 2015 14:51:39 GMT -5
I'm all for more stats and more in depth tables, but Corsi and fenwick stats and improving player card accuracy jumps to the top of my wish list.
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Post by Scott-New York on Dec 18, 2015 15:08:27 GMT -5
Us, is all of us, all the manager's... As I am well aware that this is Glenn's invention, it is certainly not possible without the rest of us now is it...
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