Goalie Stamina

[Brenden-Oregon]

I'm really confused how Brossoit went from blue yesterday to green today when he didn't play yesterday. If Smith wasn't green yesterday and therefore showing that the stamina affects were taking place, it would be easier for me to understand. He hasn't played in 9 days, and only two games in the last 2 weeks. Can someone help me understand please? Also, sidebar, if a goalie has a 4 stamina, shouldn't they be able to play 40% of the games?

[Eric-Baltimore]

I think something broke with the goalies. Halak did play yesterday, but went from Green before the game to Red (-3) after.

[Jedediah-Hartford]

From Glenn's post going over goalie stamina: gtgfhl.proboards.com/post/50585/thread

"Status will stay Blue (Rested) for the first two weeks but these guys are only good for a certain number of games (you can use GP last year in total as a measuring stick) before they get fatigued and won't be as effective."

Meaning that for the first 2 weeks, no matter what your goalie 's stamina is it will appear and act as blue.  We hit the 2-week mark sometime this weekend, so now it's finally taking all those games into effect.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Nov 1, 2021 12:23:43 GMT -5 Jedediah-Hartford said:

From Glenn's post going over goalie stamina: gtgfhl.proboards.com/post/50585/thread

"Status will stay Blue (Rested) for the first two weeks but these guys are only good for a certain number of games (you can use GP last year in total as a measuring stick) before they get fatigued and won't be as effective."

Meaning that for the first 2 weeks, no matter what your goalie 's stamina is it will appear and act as blue.  We hit the 2-week mark sometime this weekend, so now it's finally taking all those games into effect.

Thanks Jed, Eric just sent me a work jab asking if I had seen this thread and I replied to him what you had stated above. The first time the goalies color is determined is after 2 weeks of the season has played. At that time goalies color is calculated taking the entire first 2 weeks into account.

[Brenden-Oregon]

We’re 3 weeks into the season now, and until this morning, Brossoit, who hasn’t played in 9 days and only twice in the last two weeks, was blue. Mike Smith was green yesterday, and is again today after playing yesterday. I’m ok with that.

What I’m not understanding is how Brossoit went to green just today, a week after the 2 weeks of the starting of the season, having not played in 9 days. If today marked the 2 weeks and I hadn’t seen any other goalies change color, I’d understand. But currently, It’s not making any sense to me.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Any goalie who is with the big club will have their color determined at the conclusion of a game after the first 2 or so weeks of the season. Only these goalies for teams who have played on a given night are recalculated to show what their status will be for their next scheduled game. This means that updated color ratings are not determined until after ~2 weeks into the season, the goalies team plays a game and that goalie was on the big teams roster.

[Brenden-Oregon]

I understand that. Brossoit has been on the big club the entire season though, hasn’t played in 9 days, and was blue before yesterday’s game when Smith (who played last night’s game) was green even BEFORE yesterday’s game. Per the last sentence in your previous response, it’s been over two weeks, we played a game after the two weeks as evidenced by Smith (Smith was green before last night’s game), and Brossoit has been on the big club the entire season. What am I missing?

[Jon-Seattle]

Brossoit has a stamina of 4 (low) and played 5 games in the first 2 weeks which is just now being calculated due to the initial start of the season grace period. That grace period is now up, so even though he didn’t play his stamina was calculated based on that two week period and relatively heavy usage.

Goalie stamina is huge in this sim which is why it’s almost always necessary to have 2 if not 3 goalies who are playable, if for no other reason than to rest your starter

[Brenden-Oregon]

Nov 1, 2021 20:32:58 GMT -5 Jon-Seattle said:

Brossoit has a stamina of 4 (low) and played 5 games in the first 2 weeks which is just now being calculated due to the initial start of the season grace period. That grace period is now up, so even though he didn’t play his stamina was calculated based on that two week period and relatively heavy usage.

Goalie stamina is huge in this sim which is why it’s almost always necessary to have 2 if not 3 goalies who are playable, if for no other reason than to rest your starter

He played his 5th game tonight. First game in 9 days. If his stamina is 4 out of 10, he should be able to play 40% of the games without being fatigued, no?

My issue isn’t that he’s green. I get the stamina thing. My issue is that my other goalie was already green Sunday morning, therefore signaling my team has had the two weeks thing, and Brossoit was still blue. Smith played Sunday night, yet Brossoit went green. If Brossoit had gone green when Smith did to seemingly show the two weeks thing, no issues. He didn’t though. He went green this morning. That’s my issue.

[Jon-Seattle]

Ah I see first off, no he isn’t going to be able to play 40% of the games, that’s not how our stamina system works. It’s not a straight percentage but rather usage over time (particularly compared against the goalie with highest stamina, who despite having a 10 will not be able to go through entire season as blue or even green if playing 100% of games) which is a bit different. As such he will also “rest up” to get back to blue if you don’t play him. With a 4 stamina it’s likely that a single game or two may drop him to green depending on his usage over the last few games. Glenn has a bunch of formulas that I’m sure you can look up regarding how that is all calculated.

As far as the timing of when he went from green to blue I can only guess at but I see what you are saying now. My best guess would be something about initial use or a slight delay in updating brossoit since he was not playing the night it was initially calculated? But again, those are wild guesses and Glenn would have to run a bunch of stuff to figure that out.

[Phil-Cornwall]

The odd two week 'catch up' thing gets a few people every year.

as stated above, you are only going to get 1 blue game out of him- then he turns green (4 stam). Just the way it's coded.

You also cannot bankroll or save up by resting, other than that one blue game.

[Brenden-Oregon]

Nov 2, 2021 7:52:18 GMT -5 Phil-Cornwall said:

The odd two week 'catch up' thing gets a few people every year.

as stated above, you are only going to get 1 blue game out of him- then he turns green (4 stam). Just the way it's coded.

You also cannot bankroll or save up by resting, other than that one blue game.

Again, if both goalies turned green at the same time, I'd have no issue. Smith turned green before he played on Sunday night. Brossoit, not until Monday morning, and he didn't play Sunday night. Seemingly, for the two week catch up, Brossoit should've turned green when Smith did (Sunday morning I noticed it with Brossoit still blue) too, right, since Smith had? It's when Brossoit turned green that is leaving me perplexed, not that he did. I understand everything else.