Salary Cap

[Ian-Halifax]

Glenn, I was just looking over my team roster and cap page and noticed some discrepancies. The cap page shows my team has 45 players, but I only count 44. Unless I am missing something, my cap space also doesn't add up. This is what I'm using to determine my cap:
$74,000,000 + cap carry - contracts - waivers
When I add up the contracts on my team page, I get $71,467,500 but the Cap Space page shows $72,052,500. Maybe this is because of the phantom extra player that shows?
$74,000,000 + $627,453 - $71,467,500 - $51,250 = $3,108,703 (currently shows I have $2,523,703)
Let me know if I'm just being an idiot and missing something, but when I saw this I figured it might be important for teams who are low on cap or close to the min/max for players. I have been really busy lately, sorry I didn't notice anything sooner.

[John-Michigan]

Did your factor the 3 mil plus to sign f a?

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

The difference looks to be Mikko Koskinen is still hitting your cap for 585k. His contract runs through 2015. Does this ring any bells? ZI am not sure why he didn't show up ion the uncarded players section. I need to review that.

[Ian-Halifax]

I believe Koskinen is overseas and should be off my books. I think I retained him for 100k last year, but wasn't given the option to this year as he never showed on my team page.
I just went through every team page and copied all the contracts into excel. The numbers on the left is what the Cap Space page shows, the numbers on the right are what I came up with.
TOTAL = contracts + on books (from the right side)
CAP SPACE = $74,000,000 + cap carry - waivers - TOTAL
Let me know if I did something wrong. I used the cap carry and waiver numbers from the left side in that formula as I assumed they are correct. Teams like Syracuse and Johnstown who have a negative cap carry would probably still need to be adjusted since I believe we can't have a negative cap carry.

[Ian-Halifax]

Any chance we could get some word on this before bids are due tonight?

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Sept 26, 2014 11:21:43 GMT -5 Ian-Halifax said:

Any chance we could get some word on this before bids are due tonight?

No. But I can extend the current round until there is clarification/resolution. I will have to check as to why the players with no cards query missed these guys. Maybe it was just checking last years cards to this years cards. The way I determined the difference on your team was I compared the guys that were being pulled as active contracts and compared that with your roster.

It looks like some other teams have some anomalies as well. I will run the same report I did for Halifax last night for everyone to see what other players were in limbo like this.

This will not occur until tomorrow at the earliest.

[Ian-Halifax]

Glenn I just looked into this a little more. It's weird because some teams are fine while others are messed up. Here's another screenshot of excel. Again, columns that have no background are from the cap page. Columns that are yellow are what I came up with and green is the difference between the two (what i came up with - what cap space page shows)
There are a couple teams that look like they will be an easy fix. Teams that have $0 cap difference but a player difference appear to be that way because the site is taking people who are on books and counting them as actual players. Chicago, Quebec, St Paul and Toronto all fall in this category - everything is good for them except number of players it shows each team has. There are, however, some teams that appear to have multiple anomalies.
The biggest differences I would say; Colorado looks like it should have about $2.5 mil more cap, Detroit should have $3.8 more, Hartford and Johnstown a little over $2, Syracuse $3.9 (I'm sure he would be happy about that)
Then there are a few teams that look like they should be losing a significant amount than what it currently shows, the two big winners being Moncton (who should have $5.4 less) and Montreal (who should have $4.25 less)
Also one final note, you'll notice that I took the "Contracts" columns out of this one. That's because if the team has a Cap Difference, that number is the exact same as what their difference in contracts on the site and what I came up with is - which makes me think that section may be the culprit.
Let me know if you have any questions about what I did or need me to run anymore numbers today.

[Mike - Montreal]

I know I shouldn't comment until this has been resolved, but if I'm about to lose 4.25 mil in cap space - that's a big problem for me.

No offence intended, but I hope Ian's calculations are off somehow...

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Mike,

We will do what makes sense here for teams that might have been impacted severely one way or another. A possible solution of needed could be deferring cap hit adjustment (either + or -) until next year. Guys that didn't have cap that they should have were hampered in not being able to bid on potential players just like the teams that might have had too much cap available.

Let's see what the analysis shows and then we can make a decision.

[Chris-Boston]

I did some investigating and think that in my case, the player that is missing is the anomaly is Evgeny Dadonov. I retained him last year for $100k as he went to play in Europe and is currently still in the KHL, playing for St. Petersburg SKA. His actual GHL contract value is $900k.

[Ian-Halifax]

Mike if my calculations are correct you still have ~478k of cap space and 40 players. If you're going to save money with contract savings you might be ok without any adjustments. Moncton is the only team that looks like it could be in some serious trouble, I'm sure something will be figured out though.
If you go to your team page and add up all your contracts and if you have anyone that's On Books - No Card you should be able to determine everything yourself and see if I got any calculations wrong. I have always known what my cap is as I track everything in an excel spreadsheet, I just didn't happen to notice my numbers did not match the website's til yesterday because I've been busy and really have no reason to look at it.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

OK, the source of this confusion has been isolated and fixed. These players will now (and should have before) show up on the teams pages in the Players missing cards section. Many of these players are in Europe so they can either be retained for 100k or dropped outright. Some of these guys may be old retired geezers who are still under contract. As has always been the case these guys cannot be dropped for free however you may be able to substitute/drop one of these players instead of someone else you might have dropped earlier this off season.

I will send an email blast out as well so that guys can decide what they want to do with these players as the season is only 1.5 weeks away and we have the contract length decisions to make yet.

I am working on speeding up the teams page too and want to finish that before promoting the change.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

OK, speeding up the page taking longer than anticipated. I am promoting the new team roster page so you can see the guys that still have contracts but no cards.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Sept 26, 2014 13:27:39 GMT -5 Chris-Boston said:

I did some investigating and think that in my case, the player that is missing is the anomaly is Evgeny Dadonov. I retained him last year for $100k as he went to play in Europe and is currently still in the KHL, playing for St. Petersburg SKA. His actual GHL contract value is $900k.

Bang on. Did you wish to retain his rights for another year at 100k or release him?

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Ian, same deal applys for your guy. What do you want to do with him?