Salary Cap Discrepancy

[Ian-Halifax]

I was looking through the Cap Space/Team Pages and noticed some of the numbers seemed to be off. I decided to go through every team and found something quite interesting. There are a few teams in the league who are being shorted on salary cap it looks like. I know it's very late in the season and the deadline is 2 days away, but I believe the following teams should have cap space added.

Colorado: $3,330,000
Detroit: $495,000
Edmonton: $1,425,000
Quebec: $1,710,000
St Paul: $5,932,500
Syracuse: $3,875,000
Toronto: $11,347,500

St Paul, Syracuse and Toronto are owed a ton of money, Toronto is being shorted like 1/7 of the entire cap. I went to each team's page and added up their entire contracts and compared them to what is being shown on the Cap Space page. None of these teams are using LTIR so I do not believe that is causing the issue. However, all these teams show (on the Cap Page) that they have more players than they actually have. The first number is what I counted, second number is what is being shown on cap page, third number is difference.

Colorado: 46 - 48 (2)
Detroit: 44 - 45 (1)
Edmonton: 47 - 48 (1)
Quebec: 43 - 45 (2)
St Paul: 42 - 46 (4)
Syracuse: 39 - 45 (6)
Toronto: 39 - 46 (7)

I have a feeling these teams are having people they cut/released count towards their player total and cap. Obviously there is nothing we can do about the players at this point, but maybe the cap can be fixed for these teams as some of them will make a very big difference.

Below is the excel image I used. The light green columns are what I came up with, dark green is what is being shown on the Cap Space page. The numbers are shown as negatives in my spreadsheet, but those are what I believe should actually be positive and added to these teams.

Sorry if I am missing something and this post was all for nothing, but figured I would post it just in case. 

[Scott-New York]

This is not good if you are right, four of those teams would not have enough players, teams are short 6 players?

[Phil-Cornwall]

Whoa...

[Ian-Halifax]

Syracuse is actually what jumped out at me and made me count. If you go to Syracuse team page and turn it to show all contracts you will see how small the roster looks compared to many others in the league. I copied/pasted everything into excel, but if you just count the number of players you should come up with 39. It's important you change it to ALL and not BIGS and the MINORS. If someone does not have a player assigned to either the pro or minor team they will not show in either dropdown, however the entire team will show if you change it to ALL.

[Matt-Colorado]

Damn Ian. Great attention to detail.

I'm not exactly sure but my buyout and retired player cap hits, like Propsal and such might be 3mil? No idea but just an idea.

[Scott-New York]

Could definitely be retired players and such, hitting the books and counting toward roster totals

[Ian-Halifax]

Yea I believe there used to be a section on team pages that showed players that were on the books with no card. This is where people that retired or you retained for $100k showed. If that's the case it's a good thing because these teams cap numbers may be correct and the only thing that would be incorrect is the number of players which isn't a huge deal in the grand scheme of things.

[Scott-New York]

Correct, but nice catch, and its something we'll need to get corrected moving forward

[Joe-Adirondack]

I have 46 players on my team .... In the team compliance section it has me down for 45 because I have a player on the LTIR list .... With that said how is it that teams are listed as having 45 players but in actuality some have less one team has 39?

[Scott-New York]

Read the entire thread Joe, this is explained above, bud

[Joe-Adirondack]

Scott I did I was under the assumption that u needed to be at 45 active players .... So next season moser and a drafted goalie will have no card ....so I can keep them on the books for 100 grand ....will they count towards my 45 minimume roster ...I guess that's what your saying

[Phil-Cornwall]

I see Glenn on the Forum...what's the ruling on all the above? I can't believe Toronto and the 'cuse have six or seven players off books but still counting towards cap. There's gotta be a mistake somewhere.

[Scott-New York]

Your case is different than the others Joe, what we think happened with the team's that are showing 45 players in the compliance section but only have 39 actual roster players is that players who have retired and are still hitting their books are counting on the compliance for that team

[Ian-Halifax]

Joe, if you count all the players on your team you will come up with 46. This is because when you show all contracts your LTIR player shows in there. That player, however, does not count towards your total number of players (or salary). The cap page shows 45 because you have 45 active players (plus 1 on LTIR who doesn't count). Everything is good for your team.