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Post by John-Michigan on Jan 29, 2018 20:06:50 GMT -5
Why are teams being allowed to not set their line ups?
Last year I did not set my line up and Glenn sent me an email instructing me to do so or I will have to pay the consequences.
Why is this not being enforced?
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Jan 29, 2018 22:08:32 GMT -5
New fad all the cool kids are doing it
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jan 30, 2018 8:09:24 GMT -5
John, I never told you you had to set your lineup. I told you that playing your 3rd and 4th string goalies (while your 2 best goalies were healthy) was not kosher. Apples and oranges.
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Post by John-Michigan on Jan 30, 2018 16:41:59 GMT -5
ok so I can't play a shitty goalie but I can just say fuck it and not set my line up? I disagree Massa Glenn
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Jan 30, 2018 17:44:23 GMT -5
I think it’s more of a tanking issue. Guys who aren’t setting lineups are technically still playing all their best players just allowing the sim to shuffle the lines in an attempt to see if it works better then the lines they would assign.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jan 31, 2018 7:45:58 GMT -5
I think it’s more of a tanking issue. Guys who aren’t setting lineups are technically still playing all their best players just allowing the sim to shuffle the lines in an attempt to see if it works better then the lines they would assign. Correct. This makes it much harder to tank if you are letting the sim pick your lines. It plays your best players albeit with the out of position penalty incurred to them |
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Post by Joe-Adirondack on Feb 27, 2019 10:43:55 GMT -5
Regular season aside come the playoffs teams not setting there lineups MUST SET A LINEUP ENOUGH OF LETTING THE SIM BE THE COACH OF YOUR TEAM !!! Yes I was yelling
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Post by Jedediah-Hartford on Feb 27, 2019 13:38:59 GMT -5
Regular season aside come the playoffs teams not setting there lineups MUST SET A LINEUP ENOUGH OF LETTING THE SIM BE THE COACH OF YOUR TEAM !!! Yes I was yelling There is something to be said for players being prepared knowing they are in the lineup, maybe a fortitude/stamina penalty of 1 for teams who can't be bothered to fill out their lineup? Something to bring a little consequence to phoning it in instead of giving a rip? |
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Feb 27, 2019 14:06:59 GMT -5
allow any team to continue to use the 'auto lineup' but if that team is an 'away' team, have the simulation set it and lock it in some time before the game - 1-5 hours?
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Post by Joe-Adirondack on Feb 27, 2019 14:50:13 GMT -5
Listen it’s no secret I will change my lineup for matchups playing a team in the playoffs with a blank lineup screen really takes away from the point of running a team
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Post by Mike - Montreal on Feb 28, 2019 6:40:23 GMT -5
Here’s a crazy thought: how about instead of penalizing not setting a lineup, we encourage setting one with a “chemistry” bonus.
Leaving a line together for 5+ games (?) adds a small stat bump.
Or perhaps if we’re really looking for a deterrent, we should increase the out of position penalty.
My experience over the last two seasons has been if I set a lineup, I’m winning at about a 50% clip and often 4-3, 3-2 games. NOT setting a lineup I have a much better record and I’m often putting up 5+ goals. It doesn’t make sense, but that’s been my experience. Happy to be the guinea pig on this if Glenn is able to tell my record with setting lines vs. not.
Right now, the argument “set your lines so I have a better chance to beat you” is not a compelling reason for me to do it.
Also the insinuation that all teams that don’t set lines are phoning it in is BS. I’m on the site and the boards multiple times a day, was very active at the trade deadline. We should be worrying about the 2-3 truly non active teams who literally haven’t checked in since the fall.
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Post by Scott-New York on Feb 28, 2019 7:26:08 GMT -5
Post of the year, Mike.
Here's what I've noticed. If you don't set your line-up manually, players are grabbed one at a time according to O+D and placed in the line-up starting at LW1. So the player on your team with the highest offense stat + defense stat is your first line left wing. Position and Stamina do not seem to be taken into account so using this line-up seems to be very illogical at best, yet for some reason, some teams have more success when using it. I have talked to Scott-NJ and he is having more success using the computer generated lines as well. The reason some teams have success with this is beyond me because the line-ups using this method take zero hockey knowledge into account but it works for some. You may have noticed, I keep saying, it works for some. That is because I tried it last year and did not see a difference in the win/loss column as compared to the method(s) I use for setting my line-up. Of the 4 teams I'm aware of not setting their line-ups, I would say Montreal and New Jeesey are using it as a strategy and Edmonton and Chicago seem to have forgotten they paid to join a hockey league so I don't see any of THOSE teams mailing it in.
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Post by Mike - Montreal on Feb 28, 2019 8:34:35 GMT -5
Thanks Scott, but it's only February, I'm sure someone will chime in with something more interesting in the next 10 months haha
Also - you'll notice that a good number of my forwards are multi position and the sim doesn't care which side your defense plays on, so I don't think the out of position penalty is really that much of a factor - for me anyway.
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Post by Scott-New York on Feb 28, 2019 9:18:42 GMT -5
Right now, the argument “set your lines so I have a better chance to beat you” is not a compelling reason for me to do it.
That's what put you over the top. I keep seeing the argument that NHL teams have to submit line-ups before each game but you are doing that. NHL teams do not have to submit who's on each line.
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Feb 28, 2019 9:29:24 GMT -5
and just like that, we see NJ has buckled and gotten terrified of playing Halifax and submitted a lineup!!
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