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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 13, 2021 11:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Jun 14, 2021 1:59:58 GMT -5
Nedeljkovic having a 1 in big save is a shame. His rebounding is what gets him I think so not sure if that’s the issue or the fact he doesn’t have a ton of games before this year. Not much else to complain about though wish his card was better than others with poorer stats but I’m guessing again that it’s because of our 3 year average thing?
Also, I may actually have a decent team if I ever find some top pairing defensive minded defensemen. It only took…*checks watch*…6 years…ugh.
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Post by Scott-New York on Jun 14, 2021 5:47:19 GMT -5
Big save is based on shutouts, I believe.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 14, 2021 7:39:09 GMT -5
Scotty is correct, shutouts are used to determine big save value.
Also, just to be clear, the player card values are almost always based on last years results only. In the case of a player that only plays a few games and has a history in the league, his card will use an average of the last 3 years but his fortitude will be in the toilet so he wont be usable for long.
That being said, 3 year averages are used in the formula when guys determine their asking price.
When you say guys with worse stats have a better card, who in particular? Remember that Save Pct and GAA are both used when determining goalie card values.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 14, 2021 11:27:28 GMT -5
I know there are still some adjustments to be made, but I noticed a few things while doing my initial draft pre. Samuel Montembeault and Ivan Prosvetov are both listed as draft eligible, but have been drafted in the past. Jesse Ylonen has two cards (AHL id 8058 - NHL id 17251) Jalen Chatfield, Drake Rymsha, and Brad Morrison shouldn't be prospects. Thanks E, I will review. |
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Jun 15, 2021 0:18:22 GMT -5
Nedeljkovic SO’s=3 / BS=1
Grubauer/Varly = 7/4
Fleury = 6/4
Hellebuyck = 4/3
Shesterkin = 2/2
Lehner = 1/1
My guess is Ned should be 2 or 3
Also Fleurys Save % & GAA = .928/1.98 with Tech/Ath of 75/73
Neds = .932/1.90 vs 74/74
Varlamov = .929/2.04 vs 73/73
Grubauer = ..922/1.95 vs 77/69
My guess is Ath = Sv% and Tech = GAA but if that’s the case then Neds Tech isn’t being added correctly. If there are other stats involved then it’s just me quibbling over nonsense but it’s not entirely adding up. I thought you’d compare games played for the shutouts but it doesn’t seem to look that way, looks to be just straight SOs and not SOs/GP
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 15, 2021 6:49:49 GMT -5
That's correct, it is straight up shutouts that are used and not shutouts per games played. That being said if you entered the numbers correctly in your post there appears to be something wrong when comparing him to the others you listed.
On the other hand, the goalie stats/card values look good for the ones you posted. The goalies total composite score, the score used to split between ath and tech is based upon the better of his two save percentage/GAA. This total composite is then apportioned based on his save pct vs GAA values.
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Post by Matt-Colorado on Jun 15, 2021 15:15:58 GMT -5
I’m not going to pretend I understand the logic that generates cards but I’m surprised to see McDavid with 105 pints in 56 games wind up with 101 offense while a handful of players including Draisaitl, who he outscored by 21 points with less time on ice, are at 100.
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Post by Scott-New York on Jun 15, 2021 15:17:50 GMT -5
I don't know their stats but I'm pretty sure goals weigh heavier than assists
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Post by Joe-Adirondack on Jun 15, 2021 15:22:56 GMT -5
When are trades open up ....once we get FP’s ?
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Post by Matt-Colorado on Jun 15, 2021 15:24:50 GMT -5
When are trades open up ....once we get FP’s ? After the expansion draft. We can only make trades with Portland at the moment. |
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Jun 15, 2021 15:39:05 GMT -5
Ah, I think I see what you mean. Totals for Fleury and Ned are same in Tech and Ath as they have the best two save% or GAA from what I see. Grubauer is slightly lower on the list for save % but has a composite score (Tech+Ath) lower than both (despite having the best Tech, at 77)
As far as big save it looks like Ned should have a 2. Only 5 or so guys with a 3 or 4 which looks right based on the NHL stats page.
Sorry for being a bit anal about this kind of stuff but I like messing with the numbers and stats and seeing what effects everything else.
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Post by Jedediah-Hartford on Jun 15, 2021 15:46:56 GMT -5
I’m not going to pretend I understand the logic that generates cards but I’m surprised to see McDavid with 105 pints in 56 games wind up with 101 offense while a handful of players including Draisaitl, who he outscored by 21 points with less time on ice, are at 100. Yeah I was surprised by that as well. McDavid had a 102 2 years ago with 41 goals and 75 assists over 78 games. His pace this season had him at 5 more goals and 28 more assists over a 78 game stretch, while being in the same stamina bracket regarding TOI. I was expecting him to have a shot at being our first 110 OFF player, or at least get close. |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 15, 2021 16:28:16 GMT -5
I don't know their stats but I'm pretty sure goals weigh heavier than assists You are absatively 100% correct. |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 15, 2021 16:29:24 GMT -5
Ah, I think I see what you mean. Totals for Fleury and Ned are same in Tech and Ath as they have the best two save% or GAA from what I see. Grubauer is slightly lower on the list for save % but has a composite score (Tech+Ath) lower than both (despite having the best Tech, at 77) As far as big save it looks like Ned should have a 2. Only 5 or so guys with a 3 or 4 which looks right based on the NHL stats page. Sorry for being a bit anal about this kind of stuff but I like messing with the numbers and stats and seeing what effects everything else. No worries. I still need to check out his big save calculation but Tuesday is my board game nerd night. |
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