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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 5, 2021 19:02:01 GMT -5
I was toying with offering enough to give you my 2nd as well but that was a little too rich for me. I figured you would probably take it if the 2nd was included as well. |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 5, 2021 20:01:18 GMT -5
The site was down for the past 45 minutes or so. I have made a bid in the current round and when the site came back up, it appears they rolled the database back a few minutes and my bid wasn't there. If anyone else made a bid around 8:00 tonight, you might want to verify that it is still there and if not, re-enter it.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 6, 2021 19:01:40 GMT -5
Round 5 posted
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 6, 2021 19:05:26 GMT -5
3 players I considered bidding on and 2 own bids. Interesting.
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Aug 6, 2021 19:26:27 GMT -5
I used to bid on some of my own players. When some of the heavy bidders kept getting denied, I always thought "my guys are next". Not sure if Oregon feelz same.
And, if someone ELSE bids on your RFA and they ARE retained.....doesn't that trigger the NTC all year?
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Post by Brenden-Oregon on Aug 6, 2021 20:24:24 GMT -5
Oregon retains Georgiev.
Retain Korpisalo and Barbashev as own bids as well. I’m signing the two own bids to 4 year deals so no reason not to bid on them since their asking was under 1.8 mil.
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Aug 7, 2021 0:28:03 GMT -5
Oregon retains Georgiev. Retain Korpisalo and Barbashev as own bids as well. I’m signing the two own bids to 4 year deals so no reason not to bid on them since there asking was under 1.8 mil. the reason we usually don’t bid on our own RESTRICTED free agents is that there is no real incentive. At the end of the bidding you get to determine a contract for them and can be anything above their asking or dropped and fall into the UFA pool. If they get bid on you decide to match/exceed the offer or accept the compensation. Think of this portion more as an offer sheet scenario. But feel free to bid on your guys if you want or it helps you keep track of whatever |
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Aug 7, 2021 7:32:35 GMT -5
Main reason I did it in the past was to avoid a bid in later rounds.
If I had a 3 mil RFA but I know he was a down year or he's going to be worth more I'd bid on him just to get him out of the RFA pool. Just insurance someone in the last round who missed all his other targets can't throw a 5.9 mil bid.
Especially with 3 mil guys I wanted to keep because I know I'd be upping their contract to 5 years at 3.6 anyway
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Post by Brenden-Oregon on Aug 7, 2021 7:49:22 GMT -5
Oregon retains Georgiev. Retain Korpisalo and Barbashev as own bids as well. I’m signing the two own bids to 4 year deals so no reason not to bid on them since there asking was under 1.8 mil. the reason we usually don’t bid on our own RESTRICTED free agents is that there is no real incentive. At the end of the bidding you get to determine a contract for them and can be anything above their asking or dropped and fall into the UFA pool. If they get bid on you decide to match/exceed the offer or accept the compensation. Think of this portion more as an offer sheet scenario. But feel free to bid on your guys if you want or it helps you keep track of whatever The incentive is like Dane said and they can't be targeted after someone loses out on the rest of their targets. I only have to go to 1.8, but what if someone bid an extra million (2.7 instead of 1.7) on Barbashev like Baltimore did with Georgiev? I'd be paying more than I would've had to. |
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Aug 7, 2021 8:21:20 GMT -5
^ I think I said all that earlier....not sure doe.
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Post by Brian-Cleveland on Aug 7, 2021 8:43:02 GMT -5
The risk is that somebody outbids you. You can still match, but you don’t get the 25% or 10% discount. You only get a discount based on the length of the contract.  |
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Post by Ian-Halifax on Aug 7, 2021 8:43:15 GMT -5
I was toying with offering enough to give you my 2nd as well but that was a little too rich for me. I figured you would probably take it if the 2nd was included as well. Yea, I probably would have had to accept the compensation if there was a 2nd as well. That would have been a tough decision, I even had to think about this one for a while. |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 7, 2021 8:47:42 GMT -5
The risk is that somebody outbids you. You can still match, but you don’t get the 25% or 10% discount. You only get a discount based on the length of the contract. This is also mitigated by someone planning to sign someone to a 5 or 6 year deal as the 25% savings would be lost when the salary is bumped to meet the term minimum. That is for someone whose adjusted saving took them below the 6M level |
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Aug 7, 2021 10:46:06 GMT -5
RFA offers are almost 'not about the $$ offered' as matching $$ is often pretty easy - unless you specifically target a cash strapped team.
It's almost entirely about a formal offer of pics /compensation. That's about 90% of it. Just an offer of pic(s), that they either take or reject.
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Aug 7, 2021 10:48:29 GMT -5
Unless....a malicious offer from a rival team ensures no home-town discount
and...
Makes it impossible to trade that player for a year.
in that case RFA bidding is quite Nefarious
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