Best Drafting Teams

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

I have put a few queries together to identify who has had the most success drafting to date. Now this is pretty simple but for each player drafted I grabbed the best card value they had in one year and used that to determine who made the best pick at a particular point in the draft.

The first table shows the number of best picks by team. The second table shows the best pick by overall pick and the team that drafted them.

First surprise for me was how far Cincinnati was down on table 1 given the success they have had over the years.

Cleveland	12
Michigan	9
New York	9
Suffolk	9
Boston	8
Alaska	7
Johnstown	7
Quebec	7
Seattle	7
New Jersey	7
Philadelphia	6
Baltimore	6
Hamilton	5
St Paul	5
Milwaukee	5
Toronto	5
Washington	4
Syracuse	4
Montreal	4
Pittsburgh	4
Hershey	4
Chicago	4
Halifax	4
Adirondack	3
Colorado	3
Cornwall	3
Edmonton	3
Moncton	3
Cincinnati	2
Hartford	2
Calgary	1

OverAllPick	Player	Pos	teamcity	MaxPts
1	Makar, Cale	D	Toronto	177
2	Shesterkin, Igor	G	Seattle	175
3	Pietrangelo, Alex	D	Pittsburgh	163
4	Provorov, Ivan	D	Halifax	146
5	Hamilton, Dougie	D	Cleveland	176
6	Barkov, Aleksander	C	Seattle	164
7	Murray, Ryan	D	Philadelphia	156
8	Rantanen, Mikko	W/C	Colorado	154
9	Slavin, Jaccob	D	Cleveland	167
10	Subban, PK	D	Toronto	160
11	Johansen, Ryan	C/W	Seattle	148
12	Schwartz, Jaden	LW/RW	Philadelphia	160
13	McAvoy, Charlie	D	Hamilton	163
14	Stepan, Derek	RW\C	Toronto	160
15	Turris, Kyle	W/C	Alaska	156
16	Ellis, Ryan	D	Montreal	178
17	Fowler, Cam	D	St Paul	150
18	Vatanen, Sami	D	Pittsburgh	161
19	Shattenkirk, Kevin	D	Washington	164
20	Fabbro, Dante	D	Philadelphia	136
21	Campbell, Jack	G	Cincinnati	147
22	Hamonic, Travis	D	Johnstown	152
23	Morrissey, Joshua	D	Cleveland	157
24	Miller, JT	W/C	Chicago	152
25	DeKeyser, Danny	D	New Jersey	148
26	Carlo, Brandon	D	Edmonton	149
27	Forsberg, Filip	RW/LW	Syracuse	150
28	Raanta, Antti	G	Boston	163
29	Reimer, James	G	Adirondack	149
30	Gibson, John	G	Michigan	157
31	Andersen, Frederik	G	Suffolk	155
32	Skjei, Brady	D	Alaska	151
33	Parayko, Colton	D	Alaska	156
34	Georgiev, Alexandar	G	Hamilton	128
34	Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka	G	New York	128
35	McDonagh, Ryan	D	Hartford	160
36	Pionk, Neal	D	Cornwall	146
37	McNabb, Brayden	D	New York	154
38	DeAngelo, Tony	D	Hershey	156
39	Schlemko, David	D	Moncton	133
40	Lindholm, Hampus	D	Suffolk	150
41	Ceci, Cody	D	Suffolk	145
42	Forsling, Gustav	D	Halifax	159
43	Gostisbehere, Shayne	D	Philadelphia	145
44	Borowiecki, Mark	D	Pittsburgh	140
45	Miller, Colin	D	Milwaukee	139
46	deHaan, Calvin	D	Montreal	150
47	Nedeljkovic, Alex	G	Seattle	148
48	Ekholm, Mattias	D	Adirondack	157
49	Lindback, Anders	G	Washington	132
50	Mrazek, Petr	G	Hamilton	154
51	Smith, Brendan	D\LW	Suffolk	135
52	Cizikas, Casey	C/W	New Jersey	147
53	Ouellet, Xavier	D	Cincinnati	139
54	Jarry, Tristan	G	Michigan	143
55	Brown, Connor	RW	Suffolk	137
56	Arvidsson, Viktor	RW\LW	Michigan	140
57	Lindgren, Ryan	D	St Paul	147
58	Toews, Devon	D	Michigan	176
59	Smith, Reilly	RW\LW	Quebec	150
60	Copp, Andrew	W\C	Boston	141
61	Graves, Ryan	D	Alaska	160
62	Nilsson, Anders	G	Baltimore	146
63	Hintz, Roope	C\LW	Chicago	148
64	Sanford, Zach	W/C	Michigan	120
65	Gustavsson, Filip	G	New Jersey	130
66	Cernak, Erik	D	Michigan	150
67	Andersson, Rasmus	D	Halifax	153
68	Spurgeon, Jared	D	Milwaukee	161
69	Severson, Damon	D	Johnstown	146
70	Pelech, Adam	D	Montreal	144
71	Stone, Mark	RW	Cornwall	159
72	Yannick Weber	D	New Jersey	127
73	Petry, Jeff	D	Seattle	147
74	Martinez, Alec	D	Michigan	160
75	Grubauer, Philipp	G	Cornwall	165
76	Johnson, Tyler	W\C	Montreal	163
77	Lehner, Robin	G	St Paul	166
78	Gormley, Brandon	D	Cleveland	115
79	Dillon, Brenden	D	New York	134
80	Lauzon, Jeremy	D	Hartford	141
81	Lindblom, Oskar	LW	Michigan	133
82	Nemeth, Patrik	D	Quebec	153
83	Allen, Jake	G	New York	162
84	Brossoit, Laurent	G	Cleveland	152
85	Pickard, Calvin	G	Colorado	158
86	Karlsson, William	C\LW	Baltimore	157
87	Kukan, Dean	D	Philadelphia	127
88	Korpisalo, Joonas	G	Hershey	140
89	Weegar, MacKenzie	D	Moncton	164
90	Lindell, Esa	D	Boston	149
91	Edmundson, Joel	D	Cleveland	142
92	Martin, Spencer	G	St Paul	120
93	Kuemper, Darcy	G	Alaska	160
94	Trotman, Zach	D	Milwaukee	123
95	Marchenko, Alexey	D	Hamilton	135
96	Mangiapane, Andrew	RW/LW	Moncton	147
97	Condra, Erik	RW/LW	Hershey	137
98	Carlsson, Lucas	D	Johnstown	135
99	Lowry, Adam	C/LW	Cleveland	148
100	Hickey, Thomas	D	New York	141
101	Colborne, Joe	W/C	Toronto	124
102	McGinn, Brock	RW\LW	Edmonton	125
103	Cirelli, Anthony	W\C	Boston	146
104	Orlov, Dmitry	D	Suffolk	143
105	Grzelcyk, Matt	D	Adirondack	136
106	Knyzhov, Nikolai	D	New Jersey	122
107	Bunting, Michael	LW	Washington	145
108	Walman, Jake	D	Johnstown	122
109	Cole, Ian	D	Washington	149
110	Jensen, Nick	D	Quebec	144
111	Jokipakka, Jyrki	D	Quebec	130
112	Walker, Sean	D	Quebec	126
113	Friedman, Mark	D	Boston	133
114	Murray, Matt	G	Baltimore	158
115	Rosen, Calle	D	New York	136
116	Bishop, Ben	G	Chicago	164
117	Jones, Martin	G	Baltimore	182
118	Palmieri, Kyle	RW\LW	Quebec	136
119	Blais, Sammy	RW/LW	Cleveland	107
120	Pesce, Brett	D	Boston	162
121	Acciari, Noel	W\C	Alaska	130
122	Borgen, William	D	Suffolk	139
123	Marincin, Martin	D	Pittsburgh	144
124	Beck, Taylor	RW/LW	Cleveland	116
125	Gourde, Yanni	W/C	New York	144
126	Jaros, Christian	D	Suffolk	110
127	Kolyachonok, Vladislav	D	New York	108
128	Kruger, Marcus	C/W	Milwaukee	136
129	Elie, Remi	LW	Hershey	113
130	Kase, Ondrej	RW\LW	Seattle	129
131	Antipin, Victor	D	Calgary	111
132	Hackett, Matt	G	New Jersey	114
133	Scrivens, Ben	G	Seattle	144
134	Dzingel, Ryan	W\C	Syracuse	114
135	Sharangovich, Yegor	W/C	Syracuse	125
136	DaCosta, Stephane	C	Edmonton	116
137	Middleton, Jacob	D	Milwaukee	130
138	Paul Byron	W/C	Cleveland	148
139	Bournival, Michael	LW/RW	Colorado	114
140	Larsen, Philip	RW	Boston	118
141	Falk, Justin	D	Syracuse	131
142	Szwarz, Jordan	RW/C	Quebec	96
143	Bayreuther, Gavin	D	Halifax	125
144	Michalek, Steve	G	Baltimore	90
145	Fitzgerald, Casey	D	Philadelphia	122
146	Hinostroza, Vinnie	W/C	Cleveland	122
147	Graovac, Tyler	LW/C	Chicago	98
148	Schmidt, Nate	D	Boston	153
149	Bitetto, Anthony	D	St Paul	124
150	MacEwen, Zack	W/C	New Jersey	100
151	Zech, Cooper	D	Alaska	78
152	Roy, Matt	D	Johnstown	144
153	Quinney, Gage	F	Suffolk	84
154	Schueneman, Corey	D	Johnstown	132
155	Giroux, Damien	C	Toronto	76
155	St. Denis, Travis	RW	Michigan	76
156	Daccord, Joey	G	Cleveland	96
157	Silovs, Arturs	G	Johnstown	68
158	Barton, Seth	D	Baltimore	64
159	Maniscalco, Josh	D	New York	34
160	Moverare, Jacob	D	Hamilton	112

[Brenden-Oregon]

Oregon must suck at drafting or something. Only team not on here

[Jedediah-Hartford]

Next up, a formula for best value pick overall, maybe using a 3-4 year peak card value average?

You know, because we don't ask enough of you already?  

[Dane-Hamilton]

Next next up, a formula for average (of best year) card by round.

ie. Hamilton 1st round picks card average 130
Cleveland 1st round picks card average 145

I don't see how this could be an easy ask so really not expecting it.

[Jon-Seattle]

Great stuff. Need to come up with a WAR calculation vs draft pick value formula. Seems like the current chart values favor D/G’s over Forwards as well…interesting.

I wonder how much of the first chart has to do more with number of picks made vs scouting ability as well.

All rhetorical of course as it’s unlikely to impact anything even if someone did come up with these formulas outside of bragging rights. At least until I come up with a way to charge more in trades for guys I draft thanks to my great scouting…ya should definitely keep this hypothetical.

[Phil-Cornwall]

Also needed ....number of picks.

12 years of the G = 60 picks?

Some teams have had over 80 picks

some teams have had under 50 picks

Very important to chart this and while we are at it - metrics for evaluating drafting talent need to start with number of 1st round picks - again, very lopsided for some teams.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Phil, you are correct the some teams having more picks, and therefore more kicks at the can, on finding talent but the round of the pick has no bearing whatsoever as each pick is measured against the other picks at the exact same point in the draft . IE all #1 overall are measured against one another, all #66 picks overall are measured against each other. This being the case, there is no inherent advantage baked into the analysis for rating a 1st or 5th round pick.

[Phil-Cornwall]

ok....but chart the total number of picks at least. THAT much is important.

[Phil-Cornwall]

Cleveland or whoever with 18 1st round picks

Aces or Cornwall with 6 1st rounders

I wanna know

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

don't make me post pictures of obscure hockey trading cards...