2024 Draft Lottery

[Scott-New York]

See, now I always thought that you knew how this was conducted and just did it your way for the 585,001 of it all 😂

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

LOL, I had never seen this portion broadcasted before.

That being said, I did assume they were just using some randomly generated numbers and not actual balls given the 1000 (1001 actual) possible permutations. That being said, we could do something like this and draw our own set of 4 balls/cards and have a pre-published list of the combinations and what teams they are associated with. Our percentages could be adjusted to more closely match our current 3 tiers of non playoff teams.

The problem would be flipping cards/pulling balls until we get 15 winners (and the 16th team by default) manually. This would require a program which in something as straightforward as this, would lack a whole lot of transparency.

This is why I think the current elimination process is the easiest and most transparent solution available to us.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

If either of the two remaining series requires a game 7 (which would be scheduled for Monday night), I suggest we hold the 2024 Draft Lottery Monday night after the game(s). If both teams are able to close out their respective series tonight, I suggest we hold the lottery Sunday evening at 7:00 PM EST instead.

If you are able to attend please post so here.

[Scott-New York]

Should be able to attend either one, Sunday might be close, depending how deep in our regional I'm able to get, but Monday could definitely tune in

[Brian-Cleveland]

I can probably follow along Monday on my cell phone. Won’t be home until close to 8.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Monday night right after the Baltimore - Suffolk game 7 then.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

2024 Round 1 Draft Order by team from draft lottery last night.

Cleveland
Cornwall
Edmonton
Boston
Moncton
Washington
New Jersey
Milwaukee
Cincinnati
Michigan
Hershey
Hartford
Chicago
Toronto
Oregon
Philadelphia

Link to video will be posted once available.

[Scott-New York]

Teams in a draft lottery cannot move up without winning the lottery. How is it possible for Toronto to pick in front of Philly? The only way for a team to move up is to win the lottery. Otherwise, we are just randomly shuffling draft picks around. Toronto should have no way to move up unless they win the lottery. The only way any team should be moved down is if a team behind them wins the lottery. So if the lottery is for the top 3 spots, for example, Cleveland, Cornwall, and Baltimore should be the only teams that moved up, and then the rest of the teams move down accordingly. So simply because Philly and Oregon had their cards drawn first, Toronto wins and gets to move up? That makes no sense. Toronto should pick 16th, Philly 15th. I don't have time right now to re-watch the draw, but basically, the last 3 teams with cards remaining should get the top 3 spots, and everyone else should move down accordingly, but never up.

[Glenn-Philadelphia]

Scott,

I am not sure if you saw the thread on Discord or not. That might help explain why I ended up last yesterday.



Also, the last 3 jerseys drawn did parallel the top 3 spots in the draft.

These were shuffled and then drawn with the winner on top and the other team cards in order 2-31. These need to be revealed in a reverse order for our purposes. A team is only locked into a position once the last card they have in the draft lottery is revealed.

[Scott-New York]

It's not how a draft lottery works. Toronto has no reason to be able to move up unless they win one of the top 3 spots. Those should be the only lottery winners. I understand the inverse order, however, when a teams last card is revealed, they should go into their original draft slot until the last 3 cards are revealed. At that time, those 3 teams go to the top and the remainder of the teams are slid down accordingly. This automatically ensures no team can fall more than 3 spots. The way it worked, not only did Toronto win the lottery along with the other teams, but teams can be slotted into the same positions and would have been in at least one instance.

[Phil-Cornwall]

We should draft exactly like the NHL 2024.

[Scott-New York]

I don't mind our system. All I would like to see is that once a team has their card flipped, meaning they did not win the lottery, they should be placed into the original draft slot they held, not automatically moved back 3 spots. For example, Philly should have placed in position 15. The only way for Philly to fall to 16 is if Toronto had won the lottery. When Oregon's card was flipped, they should have been placed in position 12. Oregon would have ended up with pick 14 after all was said and done because Cornwall and Edmonton moved to 2 & 3 by way of winning the lottery. I'm not sure if I'm explaining this clearly but trust me, it's the way a draft lottery should work. Teams don't fall 3 spots in a draft lottery just because they didn't win the lottery. They fall if and only if a team behind them wins the lottery.

[Dane-Hamilton]

I don't know kinda like it.

Let's be honest it is much easier to tank/retool in the GHL than the NHL. We don't have to deal with no trade clauses for life of contract, we aren't at risk of being fired by the owner, we don't have angry fans to answer to etc. This is the best way to discourage tanking and keep league competitive.

If you had a team that likely would have been 30-35 wins its so easy to become a 15-20 win team. Trade your goalies a few D and maybe a forward or two and you're there. I don't think we should be rewarding this with a guaranteed top 4 pick. If you want to incorporate this strategy there should be a risk that you wasted a season by not trying to improve your team.

I'm not innocent in this as I have "retooled" a couple of times literally went from .681 win % to .186 win % back up to .671% in the span of 3 years. I was only given the 5th pick in the draft that year and I'm fine with it because would have been unfair to all of the other teams looking for a way into playoffs if a perennial contender gets the #1 pick everytime they have a down year.

[Scott-New York]

You can only fall 3 spots, so if you're one #1, the worst you pick is #4 anyway. In the NHL, you can only move up 11 spots I believe, so Cornwall would not have been able to move up to #2. I'm not arguing that either, I'm fine if our 16th pick gets lucky and moves up to #1. The only thing I don't think should happen is the teams automatically moving down 3 spots if their card is flipped. The rule says that you can't fall more than 3 spots and you shouldn't get bumped down 3 just because you didn't win the lottery. And what's worse is a team moving up who didn't win the lottery. The lottery is meant to be just that, a lottery. How the hell are we rewarding teams that don't win the lottery? It makes no sense at all.

[Scott-New York]

The top 7 are correct, from there, Milwaukee moved up 2 spots without winning the lottery, which pushed Cincinnati, Michigan, Hershey & Hartford all down 3 spots even though they should have only dropped 2 spots due to 2 teams behind them winning lottery positions (Cornwall & Edmonton). Chicago got lucky and only dropped the 2 spots they should have while as previously stated, Toronto moved up 2 spots without winning the lottery which pushed Oregon back 3 spots instead of just the 2 and Philadelphia lost one spot.

The correct order should be

1. Cleveland
2. Cornwall
3. Edmonton
4. Boston
5. Moncton
6. Washington
7. New Jersey
8. Cincinnati
9. Michigan
10. Hershey
11. Hartford
12. Milwaukee
13. Chicago
14. Oregon
15. Philadelphia
16. Toronto