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Post by Phil-Cornwall on May 17, 2024 18:22:52 GMT -5
Pitt is a good team, no doubt. I helped get them where they are today by drafting one season, but for Hamilton's season to end via so many penalties. T'aint right. T'aint.
Too many...
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Post by Lance-Pittsburgh on May 17, 2024 20:55:19 GMT -5
Pitt is a good team, no doubt. I helped get them where they are today by drafting one season… Phil, I’m pretty sure your drafting of Hudson Fasching at 29th overall had little impact on the Pittsburgh franchise. 🙄 |
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on May 17, 2024 23:53:58 GMT -5
Hehe
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on May 17, 2024 23:56:17 GMT -5
Now that bit of fun is over, please vote Lance. Let's hear from you on the subject of this thread.
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Post by Lance-Pittsburgh on May 18, 2024 7:59:15 GMT -5
I really can’t speak for other series, but I agree — there were quite a lot in the PIT-HAM series.
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on May 18, 2024 11:57:48 GMT -5
I think it's close enough to NHL numbers that might just be a string of bad RNG luck. My PK and PP both struggling didn't help me any though. Pitt team def outplayed mine, penalties weren't the difference maker in that one.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on May 18, 2024 13:18:34 GMT -5
I know it matters little now but Hamilton/you had a great year Dane.
Congrats to Pittsburgh/Lance as well on making it to the conference finals.
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Post by Scott-New York on May 20, 2024 6:59:52 GMT -5
What am I reading?....hmmm, coaches bitching about how bad the calls are. Have you been watching the NHL playoffs?
Ya,ya, first response will be, but in the NHL the calls pretty much even out. Save it. It's a dice roll, and a team doesn't and didn't lose a 7 game serious based on AI referees
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on May 20, 2024 13:00:51 GMT -5
Maybe you just read up on the posts...No one blamed losing a 7 game series on AI Officiating...But, it has been discussed that there were PP discrepancies...All you have to do is look at SUF/BAL series alone to see the factual data...SUF/BAL Series Stats Link (https://ghl.greytowergames.com/SeriesSummary.aspx?SeriesID=23-24L)
BAL's entire team is in the MINUS category...SUF's entire team is in the PLUS category. Even strength play is the reason for Suffolk. Baltimore's 32 PP's to Suffolk's 15 PP's, is the ONLY reason BAL is still in this series.
Now, whether it is the result of AI officiating or not, is something to be determined by the computer people. All I can do is guess and lend my opinion...But, to suggest that the "AI officials with +3 Skill, -1 Penalty, and +1 Homer officiating the Semi Final's DON'T have a hand in what's happening in this particular series ( and possibly others ) is "your" opinion.
I beg to differ. 32 PP to 15 PP is quite the advantage in any series, regardless of what round your in.
My real question is: Why do we have officials with this TYPE of Rating this deep in the playoffs, or in the playoffs at all?
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Post by Matt-Colorado on May 20, 2024 13:35:42 GMT -5
My real question is: Why do we have officials with this TYPE of Rating this deep in the playoffs, or in the playoffs at all? I have nothing of value to contribute to this conversation but this did remind me of a thought I had re the NHL playoffs, if there refs aren’t going to bother calling blatant penalties because ‘it’s the playoffs’ why even have them out there? |
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Post by Scott-New York on May 20, 2024 14:04:28 GMT -5
Game 4 and game 5 alone is the reason Suffolk has a lineup full of plus players, while Baltimore has a lineup full of minus players. In those 2 games, Baltimore and Suffolk each had 7 PP opportunities. In those 2 games, Baltimore didn't convert on any of those chances, while Suffolk scored 3 times on the PP. Series long, Suffolk is 33% on the PP while Baltimore is 21%. Those numbers all support the argument. I would be interested if this is refereeing or that Suffolk as a team is not as disciplined as Baltimore, or both. I agree that penalties in a few series seem very lopsided while others are pretty even. Either way, I typically view excuses as just that. And that is MY opinion.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on May 20, 2024 14:18:59 GMT -5
Sorry Scott…you’re 100% wrong!
I’m sure you haven’t been watching the Suf/Bal series like I have. Even after game 1, Suf lineup was Plus, while Bal was minus.
You don’t get a plus for scoring on the PP, which Bal was 4/7 that game…Suf was 0/1.
Suf has been dominating Bal at Even strength. The numbers show it.
If we were able to determine “DISCIPLINE” we might be onto something…but, that’s not been discussed here!
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on May 20, 2024 14:21:38 GMT -5
Btw, I’m not debating the outcomes so far…I’m merely stating/reiterating what has been mentioned here by Johnstown.
I agree with his observation!
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on May 20, 2024 14:23:40 GMT -5
For what its worth, I didn’t VOTE in this thread.
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Post by Scott-New York on May 20, 2024 14:27:39 GMT -5
Ahhh, but we can determine discipline and it may or may not be a factor as to why the numbers looked skewed on the surface. Each and every player card shows the propensity for a player to take a penalty so without looking at that, it's impossible to just call out refereeing.
On your opinion that I'm wrong, that's subjective. I'm wrong because you disagree. I'm wrong because you haven't bothered to dig deeper. I'm wrong because I don't believe in excuses. My sports are now a lot less contract but I still argue against excuses for why we lose. The best team doesn't always win. Hell, that's been proven over and over again in hockey alone.
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