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Post by Scott-New Jersey on May 5, 2017 8:55:45 GMT -5
Agree should not be advantage for a GM not able/want to do this...
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on May 5, 2017 8:57:03 GMT -5
Watching the games will be about as long as they are now (which is about 35-40 minutes). Playing the games on the other hand would probably take more like an hour as you (and your opponent if human) decide line combinations and game decisions. I would think that when there is a face off the visiting team would be given a set amount of time 5-10 secs before the sim selected a line for you and then the home team would have the same amount of time to match as desired. I am thinking that most of the games would be played by letting the computer handle them but could see owners jumping in for an important regular season game, or game against a buddy or family member to play head to head. I would think that more head to head would be played during the playoffs.
Also, this could be used to play some preseason games to see how various line combinations work.
Lastly, the game resolves all ~1970 pulses (all game actions) for each game right now in about 10-12 seconds. The display of these is throttled on the game central page for the viewers entertainment. The DVR viewer will do the same.
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Post by Owen-Moncton on May 5, 2017 9:57:01 GMT -5
Just spit ballin here, but what if this function was reserved primarily for weekend games 82 games of hands-on may be a bit heavy... also, for those who think FP are meaningless, what if a single FP could be leveraged to sort of level the playing field for passive owners who aren't able to play? If I couldn't make a game, Id want to leverage every tool and device available to keep my team winning.
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on May 5, 2017 11:10:12 GMT -5
Sounds to gimmicky. To much rich gets richer type of shit.
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Post by Scott-New York on May 5, 2017 11:29:09 GMT -5
I would love to see enhanced DVR functions but I think 'playing the games', while it could be fun, is too much. Giving teams an advantage for being available is actually unfair in my opinion. I like watching the games and might enjoy playing them but having one owner playing against an absent owner is definitely unfair and having owners playing more games than others is also unfair. You're going to get some owners playing every game or a majority of games and some owners playing none. That to me is going to tip the scales. Everyone should be on equal ground.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on May 5, 2017 11:51:43 GMT -5
I hear you Scotty but everyine is not on equal grounds given the very nature of the GHL. If we were, we would each dress 12 of GHL favorite Johnny Vanilla (80-60-60) up front, backed by 6 Timmy Vanillas D-men (55-85-65) and lastly backstopped by Peter Vanilla in goal (65-65).
We are a long way removed from the head to head ability as adding the communications handshaking and back and forth exponentially increases the complexity of the engine.
Baby steps....
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Post by Owen-Moncton on May 5, 2017 14:15:05 GMT -5
Sounds to gimmicky. To much rich gets richer type of shit. I think we've been looking for ways to make FP more valuable and encourage guys to think twice about throwing them around. The other side of your perspective is that it might make your team management strategy more important if you want to compete. Gimmicky to me would be things like using FP to lower ticket prices or improve concessions so your barn is at capacity , giving a home team advantage. my.02
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Post by Owen-Moncton on May 5, 2017 14:18:41 GMT -5
I hear you Scotty but everyine is not on equal grounds given the very nature of the GHL. If we were, we would each dress 12 of GHL favorite Johnny Vanilla (80-60-60) up front, backed by 6 Timmy Vanillas D-men (55-85-65) and lastly backstopped by Peter Vanilla in goal (65-65). We are a long way removed from the head to head ability as adding the communications handshaking and back and forth exponentially increases the complexity of the engine. Baby steps.... I like the baby steps angle for sure...would a game of the week approach be a way to sort of grandfather this potentially quantum upgrade into the GHL experience?
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on May 5, 2017 14:52:05 GMT -5
Sounds to gimmicky. To much rich gets richer type of shit. I think we've been looking for ways to make FP more valuable and encourage guys to think twice about throwing them around. The other side of your perspective is that it might make your team management strategy more important if you want to compete. Gimmicky to me would be things like using FP to lower ticket prices or improve concessions so your barn is at capacity , giving a home team advantage. my.02 I'm all for making Trade Pts more valuable. But to make a GM use them so they can be on an even playing field for not being able to be on and play is STUPID.. Maybe we make it so both GMs have to be on to take advantage of this...
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on May 5, 2017 14:56:38 GMT -5
I kind of agree with Scott-NJ.
I don't like the idea of a "weaker" team being able to use FP's or because he is available to work the DVR while the other Gm is at work, family function or just not willing, to make his team better.
If you want to make your team better, do your homework and draft well, trade well, and of course get a lil puck luck.
But no gimmicks to "pay your way".
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on May 5, 2017 15:07:35 GMT -5
You're all just scared Bring it
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Post by Owen-Moncton on May 5, 2017 18:55:50 GMT -5
I kind of agree with Scott-NJ. I don't like the idea of a "weaker" team being able to use FP's or because he is available to work the DVR while the other Gm is at work, family function or just not willing, to make his team better. If you want to make your team better, do your homework and draft well, trade well, and of course get a lil puck luck. But no gimmicks to "pay your way". Actually, I was seeing it the other way around. I was proposing that any team unavailable to "play" the game in real-time would be afforded the opportunity to use 1 single FP to have the engine step in. I see how this might be problematic if every game all season had a hands on element, which is why I suggested maybe just Saturday night or weekend games. The idea here is simply to attach a little added value to FP to do what Glenn was saying the engine would do anyway.
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on May 5, 2017 19:03:18 GMT -5
Or spend FP so your opponent can't play if you're unable to
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Post by Owen-Moncton on May 5, 2017 19:09:16 GMT -5
Or spend FP so your opponent can't play if you're unable to Now that's gimmicky... Don't like the idea of denying anyone the ability of being active.
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Post by Scott-New York on May 5, 2017 19:35:03 GMT -5
So we'll try to make this a video game instead of a simulation. No thank you, I have an Xbox that already does that.
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