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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jul 4, 2016 13:57:02 GMT -5
OK, we will go up 1.5M dollars. I was thinking in regards to our drafted players that we may wish to consider them prospects until they play 20 for a skater or 10 for a goalie in the NHL and not the AHL+NHL. This will allow these guys to be developed and their contracts wouldn't be hitting the books until they became Pros. We could start this as early as next year if people thought it was a good idea.
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Jul 4, 2016 14:38:00 GMT -5
OK, we will go up 1.5M dollars. I was thinking in regards to our drafted players that we may wish to consider them prospects until they play 20 for a skater or 10 for a goalie in the NHL and not the AHL+NHL. This will allow these guys to be developed and their contracts wouldn't be hitting the books until they became Pros. We could start this as early as next year if people thought it was a good idea. I'm not sure having them as prospects until 20 NHL games the best idea. Seems like rewarding players for developing slowly. You draft a 19 year old who had some NHL games but needs more time to become a good player becomes worse than drafting Morin who should be good once he makes it but might be in AHL one or two more years. Just my opinion but would rather have a guy like Morin if his ELC years being protected by him not getting the call sooner. The 19 year old would be on last year of contract while a potentially 23 year old Morin just beginning his. |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jul 4, 2016 15:08:56 GMT -5
I think the argument would be we either do that or modify our fixed ELC prices. We don't have two way contracts and I am not sure how it works in the NHL for guys that are drafted. Are they on two way contracts. For teams that like to build via the draft this can become financially cumbersome if the teams picks are slower to develop. I am open to any option.
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Post by Scott-New York on Jul 4, 2016 15:29:32 GMT -5
Age based...oh, never mind...
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Post by Scott-New York on Jul 4, 2016 15:35:56 GMT -5
Not that I'm not serious on that but in all seriousness, I think I have to agree with Dane. Not sure how we're incorporating bridge deals but that would help as well as possibly lowering the draft ELC contacts (a little) and get rid of 100K players. Yes, I realize that brings some fill in guys at a little more cost, but also brings drafted players value up.
In the NHL, it's dependant on what the team signs them to contact wise, but it's almost always a two way deal.
Another issue with raising the prospect requirements will be having less players to fill in for injuries as the prospects are not a usable asset.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jul 4, 2016 15:59:48 GMT -5
Age based...oh, never mind...   |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jul 4, 2016 16:03:10 GMT -5
Not that I'm not serious on that but in all seriousness, I think I have to agree with Dane. Not sure how we're incorporating bridge deals but that would help as well as possibly lowering the draft ELC contacts (a little) and get rid of 100K players. Yes, I realize that brings some fill in guys at a little more cost, but also brings drafted players value up. In the NHL, it's dependant on what the team signs them to contact wise, but it's almost always a two way deal. Another issue with raising the prospect requirements will be having less players to fill in for injuries as the prospects are not a usable asset. Perhaps the answer lies in the cap hit for each team for a given drafted player. Let's say that if the players NHL stats are used to determine his card for a year then he gets his ELC salary. If he is developing more slowly and has an AHL card he still burns off a year of his contract but maybe the cap hit is only 1/2 his ELC. I would have to code this so I am just throwing this out there as a possible option pending coding complexity and time constraints. |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jul 4, 2016 16:13:14 GMT -5
16-17 Cap has been raised 1.5M from 74M to 75.5M. Once FA starts this will temporarily bump up by 3.5M to 79M
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Post by Scott-New York on Jul 4, 2016 16:34:28 GMT -5
See how much simpler age based free agency would be...
HA, I kill me!
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on Jul 4, 2016 16:38:35 GMT -5
See how much simpler age based free agency would be... HA, I kill me! Common sense is to easy to follow. So glad I'm not a new guy trying to fugue out the rules in the reasoning of the GHL. |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jul 4, 2016 17:16:33 GMT -5
are you boys doing a little afternoon drinking? I am guessing, yes.
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Jul 4, 2016 17:49:51 GMT -5
Nah I just started drinking haha. I'd be good with players without 20 NHL games getting 1/2 price ELC contracts until they reach that so long as contract still starts as soon as they aren't a prospect.
That way you can technically have a whole draft with less than 2 mil in contracts until they make NHL then get their 100% raise
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jul 4, 2016 19:56:55 GMT -5
I agree Dane. Also, the drinking comment was aimed at the Scotts.
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Post by Scott-New York on Jul 4, 2016 20:11:46 GMT -5
Labatt Blue, indeed... So 5th rounders would make 250k until they have an NHL card... So if they have an NHL card this year but play in the AHL next year, how would this work?
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jul 5, 2016 6:48:43 GMT -5
They could make 1/2 salary if card generated was of the AHL variety for any of the 3 years they are on their ELC. This benefit would end once the ELC ended.
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