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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jan 29, 2021 22:22:56 GMT -5
We absolutely don't ignore games played. It's figured into every player card. How is it realistic that we should limit a player to 20 GHL games if he played 20 NHL games? First of all, that's physically impossible, some teams wouldn't have a goalie that for that requirement and it would extremely limit rebuilders. Secondly, just because a player only plays 20 NHL games, doesn't mean he's not capable of playing more. Take any back up goalie in the NHL. Let's say he plays that 20 games under normal circumstances. If the teams starter gets injured, that 20 games could become 60 and the all of a sudden the guy you're limiting to 20 games is a stud and we're a mirror of the NHL instead of a simulation. That's actually less realistic. We can't call guys up from the minors due to how much our minor leaguers cards are nerfed, so how we could we possibly put that type of restriction on goaltenders? BECAUSE, if he only played in 20 NHL games, and we are an NHL Simulation League BASED UPON NHL STATS, THEN, he should ONLY play in 20 GHL games.
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Post by Scott-New York on Jan 30, 2021 5:35:45 GMT -5
We absolutely don't ignore games played. It's figured into every player card. How is it realistic that we should limit a player to 20 GHL games if he played 20 NHL games? First of all, that's physically impossible, some teams wouldn't have a goalie that for that requirement and it would extremely limit rebuilders. Secondly, just because a player only plays 20 NHL games, doesn't mean he's not capable of playing more. Take any back up goalie in the NHL. Let's say he plays that 20 games under normal circumstances. If the teams starter gets injured, that 20 games could become 60 and the all of a sudden the guy you're limiting to 20 games is a stud and we're a mirror of the NHL instead of a simulation. That's actually less realistic. We can't call guys up from the minors due to how much our minor leaguers cards are nerfed, so how we could we possibly put that type of restriction on goaltenders? BECAUSE, if he only played in 20 NHL games, and we are an NHL Simulation League BASED UPON NHL STATS, THEN, he should ONLY play in 20 GHL games. 🙄
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jan 30, 2021 8:35:15 GMT -5
Chris, if we were to adopt a rule like that then every team would have to have their goalies NHL games add up to at least 82. As the NHL goalie game count is finite (1272 games x 2 goalies = 2544) it would be impossible to parcel out the goalies so that each team had a minimum of 82. Lets say a guy had 2 goalies that played 60 and 20 games respectively. Would the rule be that he couldn't use a goalie for the 2 games that he was short from the 82 (full season) needed?
I think the hybrid we have is the best way to go. I am always open to modifying how the colors (play penalties) are determined and what effects trigger each level. If we think a guy is staying Blue or Green to long I could certainly look to adjust how these calculations are made.
John, to your original question a players next game status is determined after they had played their last game. It also factors in total games played percentage to date compared to how many games they played in last year and if the number is significantly higher then the player will have a harder time getting to blue status and also staying out of yellow and worse statuses.
I know I posted a detailed thread on this a few years back. I will do some searching to see if I can locate it and post it in the rules section.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jan 30, 2021 8:47:00 GMT -5
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Post by Al-Johnstown on Feb 9, 2022 17:41:19 GMT -5
I still don’t understand why goalies don’t reset on the rest on the amount of days instead of games? This Olympic break is a good example, so Ullmark who has rested for practically 3 weeks will still stay green(even) and will not turn blue unless there’s a game played? Doesn’t make sense🤔
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Feb 9, 2022 21:03:05 GMT -5
From the thread immediately above your question:
A goalies stamina color value (Blue, Green, Yellow, Orange, Red) is refreshed at the end of the last game their team played. The following items go into determining a goalie status. The goalies stamina will be used in each of the following functions to determine game status:
Consecutive games played % of games played as a function of total games played Number of games played in last 30 days (rolling) Number of games played in last 60 days (rolling)
See the bolded bigger text above. The goalies status is determined after the last game his team played so that means that since no GHL games are scheduled for the 3 week period, there wont be a change in the goalies status (determined at the last game that the team before the break) over the 3 week period.
Their "color" is determined by the lowest rating of the 4 factors above. The last 2 factors will actually higher than they normally would be once the break is over because each teams rolling 30 and rolling 60 day calculation will be lower than normal because of the 3 week hiatus.
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Post by Jedediah-Hartford on Feb 10, 2022 12:50:27 GMT -5
Would it then be accurate to say that the effects of the long layoff will be seen going into each team's 2nd game post-Olympic break? That once the refresh happens after the first game back, the days off will enter the equation?
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Feb 10, 2022 13:01:54 GMT -5
yes, as per the last part of my statement above however because a rating is calculated for each of the 4 variables, the lowest one is used to determine freshness. If a guy played 8 games in a row and has a stamina of 3, he will still be showing in bad shape even with the 30 and 60 day calculation better scores.
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