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Post by Joe-Adirondack on Jun 2, 2022 14:44:21 GMT -5
Varlomov is at yellow -1 and by tomorrow he will have been off a week …. His fortitude is 10 stamina an 8….outstanding and goalies play every game in the playoffs, why is this the case that after a week off and he’s yellow -1 yes I know the sim is the sim but this isn’t very realistic
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Post by Joe-Adirondack on Jun 2, 2022 14:49:07 GMT -5
So Reimer goes in game 1 and Varlomov getting that extra day ….that magic day ,missed game off will put him in the blue again lol ….. it’s the sim yes I know but sometimes we need to do what’s logical ! A week off should have put him back in the Blue +1
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 2, 2022 15:24:27 GMT -5
Goalie management is important. I think Justin was using his scrub backup for most of the Toronto series to give him the most blue and green games possible.
People get a little too hung up on their goalies color.
Blue - may get a slight bonus
Green plain vanilla, nothing added
Yellow - may get a slight performance penalty
Orange will get slight performance penalty
Red - will get Moderate performance penalty
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Post by Al-Johnstown on Jun 2, 2022 15:44:36 GMT -5
we've already went through this in the beginning of the regular season! I guess it's the same for the playoffs. When I inquired about it, it didn't make sense to me either, your goalie could go through 2 months with no games and not change to a positive blue!
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Post by Brenden-Oregon on Jun 2, 2022 15:53:05 GMT -5
Goalie management is important. I think Justin was using his scrub backup for most of the Toronto series to give him the most blue and green games possible. People get a little too hung up on their goalies color. Blue - may get a slight bonus Green plain vanilla, nothing added Yellow - may get a slight performance penalty Orange will get slight performance penalty Red - will get Moderate performance penalty Goalie management in the playoffs shouldn't be a thing though for bonafide number 1 goalies. Number 1 goalies are always going to get the call in the playoffs unless they are injured, and they don't have a decrease in performance either. |
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Post by Joe-Adirondack on Jun 2, 2022 16:50:53 GMT -5
Agreed Brenden
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 2, 2022 18:17:42 GMT -5
Boys, do you think anyone in the playoffs isn't playing hurt or tired after playing playoff level hockey every other night? The answer is no. Perhaps if you could see a status of the NHL goalies/players during the game there would be some yellow status for those goalies as well. Bonafide number one goaltenders are not bionic, they are not super human, their level of play gets impacted just like guys with lower stamina just not as fast.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 2, 2022 18:20:15 GMT -5
we've already went through this in the beginning of the regular season! I guess it's the same for the playoffs. When I inquired about it, it didn't make sense to me either, your goalie could go through 2 months with no games and not change to a positive blue! if we are going to rehash it we might as well re-hash it properly, goalies changing colors are turned off for the first few weeks of the season because if not they would show as tired after their first game (playing 100% of their teams games). Even though the calculation is turned off for this period of time, once it kicks in it kicks in fully. So, if you have backup you have been riding hard,, yes he will immediately go from Blue to yellow or orange. |
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Post by Joe-Adirondack on Jun 2, 2022 18:28:27 GMT -5
Glenn I know the rules , I know real nhl goalies get hurt and tired , I’m just stating that a goalie off 7 days should not be yellow but BLUE …. I know the sim is the sim nothing can get changed and I just will sit back and watch Reimer stand on his head , get the win and then I’ll start him in game two
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jun 2, 2022 20:54:44 GMT -5
What about: If Freddie Andersson played 52 Regular Season NHL games, he can only play in 52 Regular Season GHL games. He CANNOT play any more than that at all. Until Playoffs start, then we revert to the Goalie system designed by Glenn.
This makes a GM have to manage his goalies, and have a back up capable of covering the remaining difference in games left in the season.
All goalies can only play the amount of NHL games they played in. If you do not own a NHL starting goalie, you will need to acquire one. No more "make believe an AHL goalie is an NHL goalie." At least, not until he becomes an NHL goalie, with NHL stats.
This was my ask in 2014/15...or somewhere along the way. Instead, we keep on giving AHL/Minor goalies make believe ratings and allowing them to be starters with better Player Cards than actual NHL starters/backups. Realism is Realism ( in our Fantasy World ).
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 2, 2022 21:36:50 GMT -5
What about: If Freddie Andersson played 52 Regular Season NHL games, he can only play in 52 Regular Season GHL games. He CANNOT play any more than that at all. Until Playoffs start, then we revert to the Goalie system designed by Glenn. This makes a GM have to manage his goalies, and have a back up capable of covering the remaining difference in games left in the season. All goalies can only play the amount of NHL games they played in. If you do not own a NHL starting goalie, you will need to acquire one. No more "make believe an AHL goalie is an NHL goalie." At least, not until he becomes an NHL goalie, with NHL stats. This was my ask in 2014/15...or somewhere along the way. Instead, we keep on giving AHL/Minor goalies make believe ratings and allowing them to be starters with better Player Cards than actual NHL starters/backups. Realism is Realism ( in our Fantasy World ). This would have been shown to be impossible to implement back then as well. Again, in order for this to work, each team would have to have goalies that played in exactly 82 NHL games for everyone to have their goal tending covered. |
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Post by Jon-Seattle on Jun 2, 2022 22:27:29 GMT -5
What about: If Freddie Andersson played 52 Regular Season NHL games, he can only play in 52 Regular Season GHL games. He CANNOT play any more than that at all. Until Playoffs start, then we revert to the Goalie system designed by Glenn. This makes a GM have to manage his goalies, and have a back up capable of covering the remaining difference in games left in the season. All goalies can only play the amount of NHL games they played in. If you do not own a NHL starting goalie, you will need to acquire one. No more "make believe an AHL goalie is an NHL goalie." At least, not until he becomes an NHL goalie, with NHL stats. This was my ask in 2014/15...or somewhere along the way. Instead, we keep on giving AHL/Minor goalies make believe ratings and allowing them to be starters with better Player Cards than actual NHL starters/backups. Realism is Realism ( in our Fantasy World ). This would have been shown to be impossible to implement back then as well. Again, in order for this to work, each team would have to have goalies that played in exactly 82 NHL games for everyone to have their goal tending covered. my best two goalies have 102 games between them, guess someone’s gunna have to play without for 20 games so Barkov can pad his stats later in the year. If y’all would just remember that it only counts game days in the stamina formula we wouldn’t be having this issue. Seems like the most sensible, realistic thing Glenn’s been able to do for the goalie stamina so I think ya’ll are barkin up the wrong tree. |
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Jun 3, 2022 10:57:34 GMT -5
What about: If Freddie Andersson played 52 Regular Season NHL games, he can only play in 52 Regular Season GHL games. He CANNOT play any more than that at all. Until Playoffs start, then we revert to the Goalie system designed by Glenn. This makes a GM have to manage his goalies, and have a back up capable of covering the remaining difference in games left in the season. All goalies can only play the amount of NHL games they played in. If you do not own a NHL starting goalie, you will need to acquire one. No more "make believe an AHL goalie is an NHL goalie." At least, not until he becomes an NHL goalie, with NHL stats. This was my ask in 2014/15...or somewhere along the way. Instead, we keep on giving AHL/Minor goalies make believe ratings and allowing them to be starters with better Player Cards than actual NHL starters/backups. Realism is Realism ( in our Fantasy World ). This would have been shown to be impossible to implement back then as well. Again, in order for this to work, each team would have to have goalies that played in exactly 82 NHL games for everyone to have their goal tending covered. Is it a problem to make sure you have your team managed correctly? You’re making it sound as it’s impossible. It’s actually more work to create fictional programming and Card Creation/Manipulation to accommodate GM’s that don’t plan well. A participation award, so to speak. “Oh, Johnny GM decided to Draft/Sign the best forwards and Dmen, but was unable to secure adequate goaltending. But, don’t worry Johnny, we’ll make your AHL Caliber goalie just as good and capable of being an NHL one!” On one hand we want Realism and the proverbial “If it’s in the NHL” and on the other hand we saying “oh, well young billy Bob the goaltending prospect is going to be a fine goalie someday…wait, let’s make him one today. If a GM didn’t adequately build his team, he’ll have to do it over the long haul, or pony up the loot to do it quicker. I’m sure we’d expect that to be the process anyway. |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 3, 2022 12:52:13 GMT -5
Chris,
Read my post. Each team would have to have guys that played 82 NHL games in total (no more, no less) or it wouldn't work. I am all for guys having NHL caliber goaltenders but you are not seeing the forest through the trees with your proposal.
Once you see it, you will say oh yeah, now I get it. Until then maybe someone else can try to explain it better because I aint getting though.
I think our current system is about as good as it gets but if someone has an idea to make it better, I am all ears.
Another option would be just to hide the goalie status colors just like they are hidden in the NHL.
Although Mike Smith, make that former GHL champion Mike Smith, has looked pretty yellow/orange as of late....
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Post by Brenden-Oregon on Jun 3, 2022 12:55:24 GMT -5
You could be the best planner in the world but since the players' cards are based on NHL stats (and games played), you could be screwed because of NHL injuries and not in sim injuries. I get that cards could be nerfed without the games played/fortitude thing added, but why not make fortitude (or even all attributes) a 3 year average? Or get rid of fortitude and let the sim decide the injuries at random. That would be realism.
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