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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Dec 23, 2016 19:11:03 GMT -5
My Condolences Glenn!!!! Feel better, Welcome back!
Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah guys!!!!
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Post by John-Michigan on Dec 23, 2016 19:14:12 GMT -5
Bingo was an ugly ass dog...IM done here, never gna get anyone to admit that things need to be fixed...good luck boys
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on Dec 23, 2016 21:10:14 GMT -5
First sorry for your loss glenn.
Second I think we have things to fix/repair. I would like to see a little more realit to the league. Their are things done in the NHL that we should have.
Third I think we need to thank all the VULTURES for taking advantage of the new guys. Without them we might have more GMs.
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Post by Owen-Moncton on Dec 24, 2016 0:57:48 GMT -5
Maybe you need a break Jon. Step away if you need a break. I think you have some tradeable assets as well as couple building blocks, and 4 picks in the top 60 at the draft.Thats enough to reload in the off season, if not sooner. Lots of sellers this year and you might do well to get in front of that opportunity prior to the deadline.
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Post by Scott-New York on Dec 24, 2016 7:56:57 GMT -5
Bingo was an ugly ass dog...IM done here, never gna get anyone to admit that things need to be fixed...good luck boys You've giving nothing to listen to, only that 'things' need to be fixed...what things? What would make the league better that we haven't addressed? |
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on Dec 24, 2016 10:56:09 GMT -5
You can suggest things till you are blue in the face but till Glenn wants to change it that is the way it is going to be.
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Post by Scott-New York on Dec 24, 2016 11:21:19 GMT -5
But changes can't be made without pointing to what we think needs improvement. I can't count how many times over the years I've made suggestions, some get changed, some don't, but generally if something is shot down, Glenn will explain why he doesn't think we should move in that direction and I'm done with that but owners can't just say, 'I don't like it'...what don't you like?
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Dec 24, 2016 12:20:52 GMT -5
Jon has been 'sitting out' for like, 5 years now. As someone who is used to fielding a winning team and making it in the playoffs fairly easily every year, I see exactly how I've taken 'a step back' and need to finally rebuild. It is frustration, being on 'autopilot' and getting beat by teams like Hershey and non owner teams but hey, that's life.
Some observations:
1. Do not trade a SINGLE draft pick unless you are very close to taking that next step and making noise in the playoffs OR you see someone that is a 'no brainer deal' / must have
2. Older players >33 for example do get more milage here in the G but there comes a time when their wheels begin to completely fall off and they are only good for 1 mebbe two more years - Doan and Marleau.
3. Gotta have a really good Goalie
4. Good scoring potential always beats good defense potential
Yes, Virginia, it's NO fun playing for a lottery pick. For those of you that have never done it - Cleveland, Quebec ect...lemme tell ya, it ain't fun
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Dec 24, 2016 13:02:56 GMT -5
I can honestly say, I know how John feels. I've been on both sides of that aisle. BUTTTTT, NOW is not the right time to be addressing John's issues. For one, Glenn has no time to be dealing with it. Secondly, it is the Holiday Season, and people won't give the proper attention to it all.
Thirdly, John, I know how frustrating things can get here. Especially, if you know hockey ( and we ALL do ) but NHL isn't completely translating into GHL.
I think "Sal" had a good concept. You dont need ALL STAR NHL guys in GHL. All you need is:
1- A Goalie who had a great year
2- Guys who had High Shooting Rates and High Shooting Pctg's
3- An Offensive D man or two, coupled with a few D men that Block Shots
Acquiring all that, well thats what you have to work on. Dont just acquire guys because they score in the NHL. Why do you think I wanted to acquire Arvidsson? Not because I thought he would be a dynamite 1st liner, because his card this year would've worked nice on my 3rd line. You can't be complaining ( and I dont think you are ) about being ripped off by GM's, or not knowing how the sim works. You're not a rookie here.
Take a breather, IT REALLY DOES HELP!!! Trust me. I know it's frustrating sitting and not being able to do anything to better your team DURING a season, especially when the wheels come off. But, hold onto the team, you'll be like a kid in the candy store come Draft Day. That's when you'll feel good again. And, I know it's a ways off...but you're going to have to wait until then. And, if you want to talk, I'm here to listen! Remember this though, it's only a game, and it ain't real life, so you don't need real life drama in the sim. When that happens, we ALL need to take a step back.
Let's just give Glenn some time to get thru his family matters, to get thru the holiday as best he can. Then we can all come back refreshed and move on to discussions. Imagine, me being the voice of reason...hahaha
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Dec 24, 2016 13:08:41 GMT -5
PS...the only problem with the Sal formula is, after acquiring guys that fit that mold, the likelihood that those guys will work the following season is low. So, you'll have to either acquire new guys to plug into that system, or eat the fact that your team is full of questionable guys who might all be 3rd line NHLers, and your GHL season will suck!
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Post by Brian-Cleveland on Dec 25, 2016 10:40:17 GMT -5
One issue I think needs to be addressed are teams that leave holes in their lineup. I understand that there might be injuries and you might not get a chance to plug a player in, but I think there should be some sort of penalty in place when there are empty lineup spots. Maybe a reduction in cards like we do with a tired goalie?
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Post by John-Michigan on Jan 10, 2017 19:40:25 GMT -5
Also first and second year players along with prospects are exempt but I believe it's 2017 rfa that are protected not 2018....
Will this be automated and show up in a color allowing you to manage who stays and who might go?
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Post by John-Michigan on Jan 10, 2017 20:00:03 GMT -5
With the NHL awarding a franchise to Las Vegas at the Board of Governors Meeting on Wednesday, an expansion draft will take place after next season.
Las Vegas will be the eighth team in the Pacific Division and the 15th team in the Western Conference. The NHL has 16 teams in the Eastern Conference.
The following rules were approved for the 2017 Expansion Draft:
Protected Lists
* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:
a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender
b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
Player Exposure Requirements
* All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:
i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.
* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.
Regulations Relating to Expansion Franchise
* The Las Vegas franchise must select one player from each presently existing club for a total of 30 players (not including additional players who may be acquired as the result of violations of the Expansion Draft rules).
* The Las Vegas franchise must select the following number of players at each position: 14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goaltenders.
* The Las Vegas franchise must select a minimum of 20 players who are under contract for the 2017-18 season.
* The Las Vegas franchise must select players with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100% of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap.
* The Las Vegas franchise may not buy out any of the players selected in the Expansion Draft earlier than the summer following its first season.
The 30 NHL Clubs must submit their Protection List by 5:00 P.M. ET on Saturday, June 17, 2017. The Las Vegas team must submit their Expansion Draft Selections by 5:00 P.M. ET on June 20 and the announcement of their selections will be released on made on June 21.
2017 NHL Draft Lottery
The Las Vegas franchise will be given the same odds in the 2017 NHL Draft Lottery as the team finishing with the third-fewest points during the 2016-17 regular season.
The Las Vegas franchise's First Round selection in the 2017 NHL Draft will be determined in accordance with the 2017 NHL Draft Lottery and, as a result, the Las Vegas franchise will be guaranteed no lower than the sixth overall selection.
The Las Vegas franchise then will select third in each subsequent round of the 2017 NHL Draft (subject to trades and other potential player transactions).
Alignment
The Las Vegas franchise will begin play in the Pacific Division of the Western Conference in 2017-18. There will be no other changes to the NHL's alignment.
2017-18 Schedule Matrix
Each club will continue to play an 82-game schedule, with 41 home games and 41 road games.
The schedule matrix, which ensures that all teams play in all arenas at least once each season, will be adjusted to the following in 2017-18:
Eastern Conference (Atlantic and Metropolitan Divisions - 8 Teams)
Within Conference (Division): 28 games
* 7 Teams: 2 Home / 2 Away
* 7 x 4 = 28 games
Within Conference (Non-Division): 24 games
* 4 Teams: 2 Home / 1 Away
* 4 Teams: 1 Home / 2 Away
* 4 x 3 = 12 games
* 4 x 3 = 12 games
Non-Conference: 30 games
* 15 Home / 15 Away
* 2 x 15 = 30
Western Conference (Central Division - 7 Teams)
Within Conference (Division): 26 games
* 4 Teams: 2 Home / 2 Away
* 1 Team: 3 Home / 2 Away
* 1 Team: 2 Home / 3 Away
* 4 x 4 = 16
* 1 x 5 = 5
* 1 x 5 = 5
Within Conference (Non-Division): 24 games
* 4 Teams: 2 Home / 1 Away
* 4 Teams: 1 Home / 2 Away
* 4 x 3 = 12 games
* 4 x 3 = 12 games
Non-Conference: 32 games
* 16 Home / 16 Away
* 2 x 16 = 32 games
Western Conference (Pacific Division - 8 Teams)
Within Conference (Division): 29 games
* 6 Teams: 2 Home / 2 Away
* 1 Team: 3 Home / 2 Away
* 6 x 4 = 24 games
* 1 x 5 = 5 games
Within Conference (Non-Division): 21 games
* 4 Teams: 2 Home / 1 Away
* 3 Teams: 1 Home / 2 Away
* 4 x 3 = 12 games
* 3 x 3 = 9 games
Non-Conference: 32 games
* 16 Home / 16 Away
* 2 x 16 = 32 games
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Post by John-Michigan on Jan 10, 2017 20:09:17 GMT -5
The NHL Expansion Draft contains a web of rules both on the side of who can be protected by the 30 existing teams, as well as many requirements of which unprotected players can be selected by the league’s newest club.
There are simple rules like, “only one player can be selected from each team.” Slightly more complex rules like “Las Vegas must hit at least 60% of the salary cap.” And then there are the super in-depth ones, in some cases which we still don’t have all the answers.
On it’s face, this rule seems simple, but it’s really not.
The Las Vegas franchise must select a minimum of 20 players who are under contract for the 2017-18 season. –NHL.com
Originally we thought that simply meant, George McPhee and his staff can only select 10 UFAs (unrestricted free agents). But in a recent interview with Brian Blessing on Sportsbook Radio, McPhee mentioned that his team was limited by how many RFAs (restricted free agents) they could select as well.
There are limits on how many of those you can take. Right now I think you can only draft 10 RFAs. But as we went through it, I think that’ll be the only real issue to keep an eye on, the number of RFA and contracted players you have because we met all the other requirements first time through, and there are a lot. -McPhee
So is it 10 UFAs and 10 RFAs? Or is it a total of 10? Either way, that’s just the beginning of the issues with non-contracted players.
In previous expansion drafts it was commonplace to “draft and discard” players. Since there’s a rule stating Las Vegas cannot buy-out any player’s contract until June 2018, a “draft and discard” would have to be done via trade or with a player not currently under contract.
In the NHL, there are a number of players whose rights are held by NHL teams, but do not have contracts with those teams. Many are youngsters who will be exempt from the Expansion Draft, but you better believe every team in the league has at least one player either still in college, over in Europe, or somewhere else to which they own but aren’t paying.
That’s where the 20 players under-contract rule comes in. If RFAs and UFAs count together, it’s going to be nearly impossible to “waste” one on a player they want to cast aside. This is where cap-specialist Andrew Lugerner and hockey operations analyst Tom Poraszka (aka GeneralFanager) come in. McPhee and his staff will be tireless trying to push the envelope on these rules, and it’ll be up to Lugerner and Poraszka to keep them legal. Just by that quote alone, we already can tell that was a point of contention in the first run-through and likely will again during the real draft in June.
My guess is they’ll have it figured out, but also, my prediction of a large number of head-scratching names on the final 30-man expansion list may have to be tapered. When they release those names, you’ll be able to go through and count exactly 10 non-contracted players, the mystery now remains how many are actually meant to be on the team, and how many are meant to take advantage of the rules.
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Post by Scott-New York on Jan 10, 2017 20:28:07 GMT -5
Ours will be much simpler, John, we really don't have all the contract issues. Our contacts are pretty cut and dry, unlike the NHL. I believe we're pretty much going to be using the NHL rules as far as who can be protected, I believe we've already said that we aren't required to leave certain players unprotected, I doubt UFA'S will be allowed to be chosen by the expansion team because if they are, they will not receive fair market value which is what we base our whole free agency system. That's pretty much it in a nutshell from what I understand.
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