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Post by Matt-Colorado on Aug 3, 2013 12:05:06 GMT -5
The onus is on the GM for waivers. A player wont be an RFA after being bought out, so it makes sense to me to be able to buy out a player up until free agency. I know what I have right now, and, I know what I would be working with if I chose buy out Jagr or Kovalchuk at any time during the RFA process.
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 3, 2013 12:08:49 GMT -5
Will be between RFA completion and UFA start. Why would we bead into a bidding stage with out having our cap squared away. The cap for weavers, overseas, and min should all dealth with show we know what we have. As I was unable to go drinking with my bud last evening, I am fully capable of translating. "Why would we head into a bidding stage without having our cap squared away? The cap for waivers, overseas and minors should all be dealt with so we know what we have" |
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Aug 3, 2013 12:12:46 GMT -5
For sure, waivers are done prior to UFA process begins. This allows the player ( if waived, he becomes a UFA ) to find a job on another team during the UFA process.
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 3, 2013 12:13:54 GMT -5
Correct but why not have that cash available during the RFA process?
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Post by Scott-New Jersey on Aug 3, 2013 12:23:00 GMT -5
Between my blurred vision and this autocorrect I'm surprised that it makes since. I'm sure most GMs known roughly known what they got but it would be nice to know exactly what we have.
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Post by Chris-Suffolk on Aug 3, 2013 12:38:43 GMT -5
Well, in my case...I have 3 or 4 RFA's that I may need/want to resign. I currently have 15+ mil to resign them. Which, you would THINK is enough to resign those players. However, because this is Fantasy World, someone may OVERBID one or more of those RFA's.
If that is the case, I will be forced to DROP a larger salaried player on my payroll. However, I dont want to drop a player. I would prefer to keep my players ( Rostered and RFA's ). But, I will not know my status until AFTER or DURING the RFA process.
Therefore, it is a benefit to know what you need to do with your salary cap, after the RFA process, and prior to UFA. It's easier and better to manage that way. There is no sense in dropping a player to make room in your cap---if it isn't needed. You would have just lost a player for no reason other than being hasty. ( in my scenario ).
This is why I believe that the waivers should be done after RFA and prior to UFA....as we have done it.
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Post by Ian-Halifax on Aug 3, 2013 12:54:46 GMT -5
Well, in my case...I have 3 or 4 RFA's that I may need/want to resign. I currently have 15+ mil to resign them. Which, you would THINK is enough to resign those players. However, because this is Fantasy World, someone may OVERBID one or more of those RFA's. If that is the case, I will be forced to DROP a larger salaried player on my payroll. However, I dont want to drop a player. I would prefer to keep my players ( Rostered and RFA's ). But, I will not know my status until AFTER or DURING the RFA process. Therefore, it is a benefit to know what you need to do with your salary cap, after the RFA process, and prior to UFA. It's easier and better to manage that way. There is no sense in dropping a player to make room in your cap---if it isn't needed. You would have just lost a player for no reason other than being hasty. ( in my scenario ). This is why I believe that the waivers should be done after RFA and prior to UFA....as we have done it. yes but if they are done after RFA then you won't get to clear the cap you need in time to re-sign the RFA.. your only hope would be you can do it with the little extra you are given for FA |
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Aug 3, 2013 12:56:15 GMT -5
Mirror the NHL
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 3, 2013 13:07:47 GMT -5
The NHL can waive a player whenever they want. I think our waiver period could begin after the draft and end just before the UFA period, this should cover everyone's needs. Chris's example is good but is only one scenario. If a team has a player they know they don't want, why should they have to wait to spend that money during UFA?
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Aug 3, 2013 13:10:51 GMT -5
It's obvious that Glenn is trying to safeguard against possible RFA obscene spending by holding off the waiver until after RFA....but meh...it's gonna happen anyway and the NHL does.
Let it happen - take the waiver off the books whenever /earlier.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Aug 3, 2013 13:23:05 GMT -5
I had been asked when players needed to be waived by and my response to this question has been before UFA starts because these players will be UFAs once waived.
You can waive your player earlier than that without issue. I have not pulled the trigger on any of the waivers yet because I am still working on the cap carryover and teams current caps. Doing so now would only muddy the waters further. Same goes for the few trades that are pending because of the 2014 picks (these have been loaded).
Once the cap is squared away I will start pulling the trigger on the waived players thus freeing up cap to bid on RFAs. This will happen prior to the bidding on Friday.
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 4, 2013 22:06:53 GMT -5
Johnstown will be buying out Teemu Selanne with a one time cap hit of $235,750 Brenden, my math came up with $240,750 for Selanne. 9.38925 / .975 (2 years) = 9.63 9.63 - 9.38925 = 240,750 Did I make an error somewhere? |
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 4, 2013 22:07:58 GMT -5
The Ace's will be buying out Matthieu Roy $508,750 salery Joe, do you happen to know how many years Roy was originally signed for on this contract so I can do the math and add him to the list |
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Post by Scott-New York on Aug 4, 2013 22:10:56 GMT -5
Also Glenn, can you move the master list I created on page two to the top of this thread and provide me with Avery and Brule contract info so I can do the math and add them to the list?
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Post by Brenden-Oregon on Aug 5, 2013 17:16:26 GMT -5
If that's what you got, let's go with that. Only $5000 or so so I can live with that.
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