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Post by Scott-New York on Jun 14, 2016 10:23:01 GMT -5
ok then wey stays but who is yorkman? Looks like someone you had on contract but it doesn't matter because his contract is up this year anyway, expires 2016 according to your team page so he'll come off your books anyway |
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Post by John-Michigan on Jun 14, 2016 11:45:30 GMT -5
dropping stalock
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Jun 14, 2016 12:04:55 GMT -5
You cannot 'Drop' Goalie Stalock. |
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Jun 14, 2016 12:12:02 GMT -5
The following occurs BEFORE the Free Agency (RFA and UFA) process:
WAIVE a player = you only get ONE of these and they can occur BEFORE the free agency process. There is a formula paid for remainder years of contact and salary.
DROP without penalty = as many players as you like, drafted or not, IF they did not play a single GHL game for YOUR team.
DROP without penalty OVERSEAS = If the player was overseas for the ENTIRE season, they may be dropped without penalty or RETAINED rights for 100K.
RETIRED = No Drop. You must pay the remainder of the contract, or use your one waiver.
The Following occurs AFTER the Free Agency (RFA and UFA) process:
LTIR = Long Term Injured Reserve, if a SINGLE player has a GHL card with a Fortitude score of 1 or 2 then you can place him ''out for the season' and use his salary for your CAP. This CAP saving application can only be used AFTER the entire Free Agent process, thus is hard to use to acquire space for adding a player.
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Post by Jedediah-Hartford on Jun 14, 2016 12:35:31 GMT -5
If the player involved doesn't have a card, how do I find out the initial length of his contract? (for the purposes of doing the math when dropping)
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Post by Scott-New York on Jun 14, 2016 12:41:12 GMT -5
It should show on his player cards under transactions
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Post by Brian-Cleveland on Jun 14, 2016 12:43:56 GMT -5
WAIVE a player = you only get ONE of these and they occur AFTER the Free Agency process so that they do not create CAP 'room'. There is a formula paid for remainder years of contact and salary. DROP without penalty = as many players as you like, drafted or not, IF they did not play a single GHL game for YOUR team. DROP without penalty OVERSEAS = If the player was overseas for the ENTIRE season, they may be dropped without penalty or RETAINED rights for 100K. RETIRED = No Drop. You must pay the remainder of the contract. LTIR = Long Term Injured Reserve, if a SINGLE player has a GHL card with a Fortitude score of 1 or 2 then you can place him ''out for the season' and use his salary for your CAP. Waiving a player is done prior to free agency (or maybe in between RFA and UFA). This allows the waived player to be bid on as a UFA. Otherwise he'd sit out the entire season. You can drop drafted players that haven't played a game. Players on GHL contracts cannot be dropped for free (unless they played overseas). Players on minor league contracts can be dropped. If a minor league player plays a game then you either have to drop him or give him a GHL contract. You can use your waiver on a retired player. Teams must be compliant with the cap on the first day of the season. They can then place a player on LTIR. This prevents teams from using the cap savings during free agency. I think I got it right without consulting the rulebook. Just need someone to verify the waiver period. |
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Post by Eric-Baltimore on Jun 14, 2016 12:52:17 GMT -5
ok then wey stays but who is yorkman? You got him from me in the Tanguay trade along with Kaleta. Baltimore is sending Bal 2nd Patrick Kaleta Nolan Yonkman to Detroit for Alex Tanguay Jay Rosehill Baltimore will pay all the points |
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Post by Eric-Baltimore on Jun 14, 2016 13:02:51 GMT -5
Dropping Clitsome, I think without penalty, although I may need a ruling on that. He was injured and on IR all year with Winnipeg and doesn't have a card, but he announced his retirement last week.
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Post by Matt-Colorado on Jun 14, 2016 13:51:45 GMT -5
Dropping Clitsome, I think without penalty, although I may need a ruling on that. He was injured and on IR all year with Winnipeg and doesn't have a card, but he announced his retirement last week. Chris Phillips has the exact same situation. No card due to IR last year and now retired. |
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Post by Scott-New York on Jun 14, 2016 14:30:01 GMT -5
I believe that you have to waive them. Let's say a player retires this year but is on your books until 2018. He won't have a card for the 2017-18 season but still remains on your books unless you waive him. If a player retires, whether he has a card or not, you are on the hook for the remainder of his contract, that's why it was designed that way, to avoid savings on veteran players if you overspend to acquire them after you sign them long term. I'm not saying that either of these players fall into that category but I'm stating the rule and it's intended purpose.
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Post by Eric-Baltimore on Jun 14, 2016 19:43:12 GMT -5
I believe that you have to waive them. Let's say a player retires this year but is on your books until 2018. He won't have a card for the 2017-18 season but still remains on your books unless you waive him. If a player retires, whether he has a card or not, you are on the hook for the remainder of his contract, that's why it was designed that way, to avoid savings on veteran players if you overspend to acquire them after you sign them long term. I'm not saying that either of these players fall into that category but I'm stating the rule and it's intended purpose. Yeah I get that. My point was, he was technically on a roster last year he just never got into a game. I also have Eric Brewer who got cut in training camp and didn't sign on anywhere else. He hasn't retired so do I have the option of dropping him or keeping his rights for $100,000? |
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Jun 14, 2016 19:46:30 GMT -5
No, guys who just aren't signed (in the NHL or AHL) and are just free agents hit the books until you axe them (with penalty).
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Post by Matt-Colorado on Jun 16, 2016 11:35:54 GMT -5
I believe that you have to waive them. Let's say a player retires this year but is on your books until 2018. He won't have a card for the 2017-18 season but still remains on your books unless you waive him. If a player retires, whether he has a card or not, you are on the hook for the remainder of his contract, that's why it was designed that way, to avoid savings on veteran players if you overspend to acquire them after you sign them long term. I'm not saying that either of these players fall into that category but I'm stating the rule and it's intended purpose. Yeah I get that. My point was, he was technically on a roster last year he just never got into a game. I also have Eric Brewer who got cut in training camp and didn't sign on anywhere else. He hasn't retired so do I have the option of dropping him or keeping his rights for $100,000? The point isn't that they retired two weeks ago, the point is that they were injured an on IR for all of last season. I feel like for this year at least they should be at least 100k-able. What did we do with guys like pronger or savard who never retired but were hurt, never played and still under GHL contracts? |
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Jun 16, 2016 12:44:10 GMT -5
The following occurs BEFORE the Free Agency (RFA and UFA) process: WAIVE a player = you only get ONE of these and they can occur BEFORE the free agency process. There is a formula paid for remainder years of contact and salary. DROP without penalty = as many players as you like, drafted or not, IF they did not play a single GHL game for YOUR team. DROP without penalty OVERSEAS = If the player was overseas for the ENTIRE season, they may be dropped without penalty or RETAINED rights for 100K. RETIRED = No Drop. You must pay the remainder of the contract, or use your one waiver. The Following occurs AFTER the Free Agency (RFA and UFA) process: LTIR = Long Term Injured Reserve, if a SINGLE player has a GHL card with a Fortitude score of 1 or 2 then you can place him ''out for the season' and use his salary for your CAP. This CAP saving application can only be used AFTER the entire Free Agent process, thus is hard to use to acquire space for adding a player. Edited...trying to get this is an easy readable fashion as it's not easy to glean from the online GHL Rule Book. |
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