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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Oct 23, 2012 17:13:02 GMT -5
I hope the NHL plays, but Sal does have a point, will there even be 150+ new ahl players for the draft. Most 18-20 year olds who would have at least got 1 game try outs in the nhl have been sent to minors, Huberdeau, Yakupov(I know KHL now after legal battle) Murray etc. Would be absent and seems Granlund and Schultz would be some of the only potetential "great players" in a lockout draft and the next year would be loaded with talent.
Obviously no need to address this unless the whole season is lost though.
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Post by Scott-New York on Oct 23, 2012 17:35:40 GMT -5
Let's hope season is not lost, not only would the draft be an obstacle but player cards would also become a problem we would need to address.
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Post by Matt-Colorado on Oct 23, 2012 19:31:29 GMT -5
Too soon for the house remark lol. I actually got a chuckle put of it. I figure we can take that when the season is cancelled...but I'm a procrastinator, that's just my vote though. Don't tackle an issue that doesn't exist just yet. I doubt hockey gets cancelled for a full season again.
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Post by Matt-Colorado on Oct 23, 2012 20:19:15 GMT -5
My offense gets a whopping 1 point better if I bench my convicts. So sad hahaha.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Oct 24, 2012 6:54:28 GMT -5
Let's hope season is not lost, not only would the draft be an obstacle but player cards would also become a problem we would need to address. Yes, infact I think we should address both NOW. Just because my house isn't burning now doesn't mean I don't have a plan and insurance for incase it does in the future. So right now we are at if there is a full lock out: The draft will use the same requirements? The card will remain unchanged? Players should become free agents on schedule, fortitudes the same, stat values unchanged, etc? It's best to spend a day figuring this out now. The draft will remain unchanged but if those greedy fookers do not get together and come to some agreement and there is no NHL hockey this year we will use a weighted average of the past 3 years worth of cards to arrive at next years cards. The weighting would most lilkey be as follows card year weight ------------ -------- 12-13 45 11-12 35 10-11 20 Using this forumala any guys who were rookies this year (Nugent Hopkins et al) would have the same card as they had the year before. Also in unrelated commentary, if there is no NHL season this year I hope I am rating replacement players the following year. The current crop of NHLers can head over to Europe to play IMHO.
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Post by Scott-New York on Oct 24, 2012 12:00:46 GMT -5
So I assume the player card values from the previous two seasons is stored in a data bank somewhere. Is there a way this can be made viewable so we can research past cards? I have this years (of course) and most of last years but not year one's, this could turn out to be valuable info as my pessimism toward the league is at an all time low after the news articles I read this morning. Hopes are up but it's not looking good for hockey this season boys.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Oct 24, 2012 12:19:33 GMT -5
So I assume the player card values from the previous two seasons is stored in a data bank somewhere. Is there a way this can be made viewable so we can research past cards? I have this years (of course) and most of last years but not year one's, this could turn out to be valuable info as my pessimism toward the league is at an all time low after the news articles I read this morning. Hopes are up but it's not looking good for hockey this season boys. I have all of the data saved but it is not a simple feat to implement and expose to the world. If the season does get the official axe, I will do what needs to be done. Barring that though, I will not have this any where near the top of my priority list.
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Post by Matt-Colorado on Oct 24, 2012 12:39:32 GMT -5
The NHLPA brought on Fehr so they wouldn't get hosed this time around...and Mr. Lockout is doing his thing. Strange to say Bettman isn't the bad guy at this stage after the last set of negotiations.
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Oct 24, 2012 13:42:48 GMT -5
The NHLPA brought on Fehr so they wouldn't get hosed this time around...and Mr. Lockout is doing his thing. Strange to say Bettman isn't the bad guy at this stage after the last set of negotiations. I say a pox on the players house for bringing that mealy mouthed Fehr into the mix. That c-sucker hosed baseball and now he is doing the same to hockey. I say do whatever is needed to grease the wheels with replacement players. I am beyond pissed off.
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Oct 24, 2012 22:27:04 GMT -5
Yes, infact I think we should address both NOW. Just because my house isn't burning now doesn't mean I don't have a plan and insurance for incase it does in the future. So right now we are at if there is a full lock out: The draft will use the same requirements? The card will remain unchanged? Players should become free agents on schedule, fortitudes the same, stat values unchanged, etc? It's best to spend a day figuring this out now. The draft will remain unchanged but if those greedy fookers do not get together and come to some agreement and there is no NHL hockey this year we will use a weighted average of the past 3 years worth of cards to arrive at next years cards. The weighting would most lilkey be as follows card year weight ------------ -------- 12-13 45 11-12 35 10-11 20 Using this forumala any guys who were rookies this year (Nugent Hopkins et al) would have the same card as they had the year before. Also in unrelated commentary, if there is no NHL season this year I hope I am rating replacement players the following year. The current crop of NHLers can head over to Europe to play IMHO. So would guys who had cards the last 3 years but would have been retired/unsigned be used still. Ex. Nicklas Lidstro
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Post by Glenn-Philadelphia on Oct 25, 2012 5:53:29 GMT -5
That is an excellent point Dane. I would have to say they wouldn't be as the cards would be used as a basis for our 13-14 season using the 12-13 statistics. Because the player officially retired, he would not have had stats and would not be eligible in the FHL.
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Post by John-Michigan on Oct 25, 2012 16:59:55 GMT -5
why does my team suck moose balls?
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Post by Dane-Hamilton on Oct 25, 2012 17:17:46 GMT -5
why does my team suck moose balls? Your special teams play is atrocious, particularly the PP 3.3%. What are you coaching those boys John?
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Post by John-Michigan on Oct 25, 2012 19:52:45 GMT -5
can an owner and CEO fire himself?
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Post by Phil-Cornwall on Oct 25, 2012 20:20:56 GMT -5
can an owner and CEO fire himself? ...shortest season evah...
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